Disturbance in the force

I wasn't trying to compete with Whyte Horse for the correct answer nor was I really trying to prove a point. As to me saying that I feel like this is a time of awakening, I was referring to how peoples minds have been becoming generally more open in recent decades.

So I take it that you like science Akkarin?
Here's a cool video I found recently that you may or may not like. Not trying to go off topic, just a cool idea to ponder on... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2MuaJeTIA4

(edit: I wasn't aware that it would put the video on the like that lol)

Shang Li wrote: I wasn't trying to compete with Whyte Horse for the correct answer nor was I really trying to prove a point. As to me saying that I feel like this is a time of awakening, I was referring to how peoples minds have been becoming generally more open in recent decades.

So I take it that you like science Akkarin?
Here's a cool video I found recently that you may or may not like. Not trying to go off topic, just a cool idea to ponder on...

I started watching. I followed the links. I went to the article it linked to. I failed to find any supporting links to peer-reviewed scientific papers that explained this phenomenon. I stopped watching.

If this idea is as scientific as it sounds, and equally as scientifically valuable as other hypotheses, then there will be peer-reviewed scientific papers which I can be shown and documented experimental evidence that has been verified by a range of sources

If not then I guess this is just a guy on a youtube video talking about 'stuff'

If I have missed something then I apologise. Could you please show me where I was in error

As far as competing goes. I apologise, that was not what I was intending to try and demonstrate. I was showing that two people had two completely different views about things that were soon to happen (in some form) but that each of these views provided nothing to me that would require me to accept either one of them as being true

Akkarin wrote: If this idea is as scientific as it sounds, and equally as scientifically valuable as other hypotheses, then there will be peer-reviewed scientific papers which I can be shown and documented experimental evidence that has been verified by a range of sources

If not then I guess this is just a guy on a youtube video talking about 'stuff'

Yes, this was a bummer to me too when I first discovered it. Like I said it was more of the "idea to ponder on". If it had loads of supporting evidence, or any at all, I'm sure we would all have been hearing about it non-stop.

Akkarin wrote: I was showing that two people had two completely different views about things that were soon to happen (in some form) but that each of these views provided nothing to me that would require me to accept either one of them as being true

I couldn't possibly provide any sort of evidence, as I originally stated that my opinion was simply based off feeling. I was actually agreeing with him that the future ahead of us seems like it will be a rocky time, but I don't exactly see that as a bad thing, or the end of the world. The only difference is that I don't believe the "Dark Side" is now controlling the fate of the planet.

Akkarin wrote:

Whyte Horse wrote: the problem is that the people in power are hell-bent on doing harm rather than good.

I thought it was all the poor people who were to lazy too work that prevented the economy from performing because of a marxist-communist over-bloated welfare budget costing too much to support their lazy arses?

Let's have less of the stereotyping please

I know lots of economic arguments that have as much going for them from their proponents point of views as my arguments do to the contrary of theirs! I do not believe in your simple-solution-that-no-one-is-implementing theory I'm afraid

Well you know, some people are never convinced unless it fits into their world view... Here are a few things to ponder:
1. The food thing: UN warns of looming worldwide food crisis in 2013
2. Fiscal Cliff and Solution by PhD Economist: here
3. The real estate thing: Shadow Inventories
4. The poverty thing: U.S. Poverty On Track To Rise To Highest Since 1960s
5. The global warming thing: I could list a whole book of alternative energies that are sustainable and don't give off CO2. This is one of the clearest examples of those in power doing nothing. We had a similar problem in the 70's with Ozone and the gov't quickly banned CFCs and saved the ozone. Now what do they do? DRILL BABY DRILL!! WOOO!!!! KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE BABY!!! YEAH!

While I don't dwell on these things as much as I should, it concerns me because of the effect on the people around me. I think that if there were some people in power who had good intention a lot of these problems would get solved and untold misery averted.

Shang Li wrote: If it had loads of supporting evidence, or any at all, I'm sure we would all have been hearing about it non-stop.

Quite likely

Lots of ideas that are presented are interesting. Matrixism is 'interesting' but delving into such subject matters should be purely out of some philosophically curious goal, because such subjects, while 'interesting', have no practical basis in reality beyond further teaching of the subject lol

Shang Li wrote: I couldn't possibly provide any sort of evidence, as I originally stated that my opinion was simply based off feeling. I was actually agreeing with him that the future ahead of us seems like it will be a rocky time, but I don't exactly see that as a bad thing, or the end of the world.

So how do you tell the difference between your feeling being meaningful (truthful and reliable) and your feeling just being a feeling that you get and you're blowing it way way out of proportion?

I was about to derail this thread by going into each one of the things you mentioned Whyte, but this is not the place (you can start a new topic if you would like)

'Our numbers are burdensome to the world, which can hardly support us...' - Tertullian, Second Century CE (when the population of the world was 190 million)

I think you are really overstating how terrible things actually are. Sure they are bad, but not world destroying in comparison to what has happened even in our recent past

I've been seeing "there is a disturbance in the force... something bad is going to happen" posts in the jedi community for the last 11 years... somehow the wheel keeps on turning despite people trying to spread the hebee-jebees.

There is only one thing that makes politicians take action....and it's not what is in the best interest of their constituents...hint...it's made of paper and conveniently fits in a wallet....the more of it you are willing to give them, the more willing they are to see things your way....money talks, bs walks...the creed is greed...

As long as fiscal power is to be had we will be stuck with dino fuels instead of clean energy which will continue to degrade the world

And yes people have been crying out "the end is near" for hundreds of years...yet here we are talking about it...in the grand scheme humans have only been around for a few minutes...hour at most...if things end it will be our own(humanity's) doing...

Doomsday signs can be seen and felt everywhere if you focus on finding only them if you focus only on finding the good, then that's all you will find...your focus determines your reality

I've been seeing "there is a disturbance in the force... something bad is going to happen" posts in the jedi community for the last 11 years... somehow the wheel keeps on turning despite people trying to spread the hebee-jebees.

Actually, its a prediction that is never wrong. I can say "I sense a disturbance, blah,blab." And for sure something bad will happen. Something bad is always happening because the wheel keeps on turning. Kinds like a psychic saying you will face challenges in your future. Lol, its ambiguous enough to come true.

Now, if I predict the end of the world, that's a bit different.

OK so I think I've nailed this down a little further. I was reading about the global consciousness project and was able to replicate their results using a couple computers but on a much smaller scale, we're talking like 4 RNGs and 2 people. Anyway, it was just for my own personal research to confirm what they have discovered.

So I'm thinking that "a disturbance in the force" is actually the same kind of event as when the random number generators mysteriously synchronize. So this leads me to believe that there is a major emotional event coming up, possibly planet-wide but it could just be in my area (west US).

I dug a little deeper into what kinds of events trigger this RNG synchronicity, and I looked at the current events in the news... I think it may be another financial crisis like a bond bubble or states/cities going bankrupt.

World's biggest protest just happened...