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28 Sep 2012 16:06 #74880 by Jestor
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Angelus wrote:

Andy Spalding wrote: That's a very concrete view of the path.

I find this sort of absolute view ironic because we did recently spend almost 40 pages of discussion in the "light or shadow" thread over the relative freedom TOTJO gives in pursuing the path.

This "your in the wrong place" seems to imply that the path is not as vague as and open as it was made out to be in those previous discussions... Apparently you are free to follow the jedi way as you see fit, as long as your not curious about the sith?


I don't believe in absolutes. But the Jedi and Sith beliefs are, in essence, opposites. Fostering some kind of Sith training here is what led to a lot of the fights and "schisms" of TotJO's early years. I support an introductory topic on the Sith, but nothing more. The Jedi path, while variable and diverse, is a concrete one, and while you're on it, you should adhere to it's precepts. It is a syncretistic faith, but that does not mean that it engulfs EVERY faith, least of all its antithesis.


I would agree as well Angelus...

And the problem there is like being a Jedi, and our 40 page thread...

Being a Sith (like a Jedi) is very indivdualistic... and therefore, hard to classify or teach...

I was very, very dark once upon a time...

I have embraced my dark side, I understand it, and I control it, it doenst control me... But, then neither does the light...;)

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Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....


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28 Sep 2012 16:07 #74881 by
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Angelus wrote:
I don't believe in absolutes.

It is a syncretistic faith, but that does not mean that it engulfs EVERY faith, least of all its antithesis.


Interesting, do go on.

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28 Sep 2012 16:21 #74883 by Ben
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*Sigh*...I do think people are still looking at this too black and white...

Of course in the Abrahamic/Christian SIG you learn about Christianity from a Jediism viewpoint rather than a 100% Christian one...I didn't think that I needed to be that specific about it.

I agree with Master Jestor...if someone wants to learn about Sithism, we don't have much expertise to offer.

But I'm also not convinced that if you walk into a Sith community and ask to join, saying "I'm a Jedi with no intention of becoming a Sith, but I want you to teach me all about Sithism to satisfy my curiosity"...well the impression that I've gotten from the Sith that I've met is that you wont get far with that.

Sanjay isn't asking for training, he made that clear...he's just interested in what it's all about.

So I'm just saying that all this "well duh...we're JEDI, so you need to go to a SITH site" isn't as straightforward as some people are making it out to be...

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28 Sep 2012 16:24 #74884 by
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Andy Spalding wrote:

Angelus wrote:
I don't believe in absolutes.

It is a syncretistic faith, but that does not mean that it engulfs EVERY faith, least of all its antithesis.


Interesting, do go on.


do go on... in a new topic that deals specifically with this subject rather than derailing this discussion

Lets make sure we talk about Sithism in the Sithism thread. The 'no absolutes thread' is a good one to have if you wanted to start one :)

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28 Sep 2012 16:27 #74886 by
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This discussion is about sithism, therefore this conversation is relevant to the discussion

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28 Sep 2012 16:30 #74887 by Ben
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Akkarin wrote: do go on... in a new topic that deals specifically with this subject rather than derailing this discussion

Lets make sure we talk about Sithism in the Sithism thread.


To be fair, this thread is called:

Sithism

:laugh:

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28 Sep 2012 16:33 #74888 by
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My point exactly

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28 Sep 2012 16:35 #74889 by
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It looked to me like Andy was talking about a discussion about 'absolutes', so I was referring to a discussion about 'absolutes'

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28 Sep 2012 16:50 #74892 by
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Angelus wrote: The Jedi path, while variable and diverse, is a concrete one, and while you're on it, you should adhere to it's precepts.


It is indeed a discussion about sithism.

I would like to know where it says in this church's teachings that it is not appropriate to follow the sith path as a jedi.

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28 Sep 2012 16:59 - 28 Sep 2012 17:01 #74893 by Angelus
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I am not your boss. You can study whatever you'd like to. The point i'm trying to express is this: we are not a Sith group. We use to have a section of the forum dedicated to instruction in Sithism, but it was pulled. TotJO does not prohibit studies of Sithism. But I do not speak for TotJO.

I have been a member here for over four years, and have seen Sithism rise and fall in the forums. We do not train Sith. And while we may observe their practices, we do not engage in them. What YOU do is your choice, but there are methods of training here that don't involve Sith practices. Several members over the years have followed the Jedi path to Knighthood, and then embarked on the Sith path, for the sake of furthering their understanding of who they are, what the believe, and what they believe in. We do not define your path, you do. We are here to help you on your way, but Sithism really isn't something we can help you with.

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