A Genocide Ignored

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09 Jul 2012 11:59 #66291 by
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Knarf is right
unfortunatley we can't undo the past,
history is written by the victors and is not always accurate/truthful
and it seems unlikely that the participants in the present
are willing to lay down arms and work towards improvement for their own futures.

International intusion is not the answer it is part of what has caused the problems...
they need to find their own solutions,
if that means leaving , or fighting, or attempting political truce, it must be their own solution for it to remain.

My own opinion of course and not meant to offend.

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09 Jul 2012 14:01 #66299 by
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Once again, not asking for international intervention, at least not militarily. The West bullied the good old SA into ending Apartheid with sanctions and stuff, and I figure that would work with this, seeing as how in less than 20 years, the ANC has turned South Africa into a third-world country, which of course is undoubtedly dependent, to some degree, on foreign aid.

No people, I'm not violent. I hate violence. But like I said before, it's a little late to talk of non-violence as an answer to this problem. When a 7-foot-tall, 300lb man jacked up on PCP enters your home intent on raping your daughter, and you have a firearm near at hand, is that the time to ponder the morality of self-defense. No, you're just going to shoot him. The Boers will soon fight back, and I think it's about time.

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09 Jul 2012 17:34 - 09 Jul 2012 17:43 #66333 by
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why was this huge black superman hopped up on PCP there in the first place? no reason at all? and of course he was intent on raping white women, they all are. your sentiment was blatantly racist.

once more, read back thru the thread. first, someone calls for world leaders to not ignore genocide. then i point out that acknowledging it and not doing anything about it is reprehensible, so some leaders (or at least the blue hats) would band together and send in fighters IF they deem it to be an actual genocide (im not going to debate that here, they have their own definitions im sure). if they are facing a force of any size (which would be required to effectively carry out genocide), that would require a lot of fighters and support personnel, meaning a small scale war. i purposefully didnt mention sanctions and the like cuz i think they are near useless in this kind of scenario. once the fighting has started, as you say it has, sanctions will rarely do a thing.

you keep saying how nonviolent you are, yet you are dead set (pun intended) on violently defending your SA compatriots. as master akkarin pointed out, where does this viscious cycle end? who stops killing the other side first?
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10 Jul 2012 00:16 #66386 by
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My husband was in Rwanada during the genocide there, he was one of the "blue hats", the ROEs were quite clear they were not to intervene in anything going on and were NOT to fire on either side.
The purpose of this was????
As far as I know the refugee camps that were set up are still running full force and here it is18 years later and the same ugly feelings are still there. Has anything changed...no. Lives were lost , countless dollars spent, and I can attest to sleepless nights (still)... and what has changed.
The change must come from within..it can't be forced by the international community...through sanctions or soldiers. If my country was under attack I would fight with my dying breath and every last drop of my blood to defend it and my family...I would not run and I would not ask for outside help...
Sorry if that offends anyone, but I would not ask for something I was unwilling to give myself.

:laugh: smiley face to lighten the mood...I'm just a hippie at heart... all peace and love...

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10 Jul 2012 02:02 #66407 by ren
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The change must come from within..it can't be forced by the international community...through sanctions or soldiers


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