Are animals force senstive
22 Oct 2016 17:15 #262304
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^This! You and I have a very similar understanding about the Force, mainly that we will never understand it. That doesn't stop us from trying, though! Thanks for putting your thoughts here in a way that I can learn from them. Our conversations are always great for me.
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Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:
Senan wrote:
Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: I think you have misconstrued the nature of the force.
The Force is something transcendent of physical reality and yet also immanent throughout. We do not draw power from it. It is quite the other way around as it draws power from us… MORE
But how do we know any of this? How is your understanding of the Force more correct than mine or anyone else's? How have I misconstrued the true nature of the Force while you have properly construed it? These questions are not meant to be contentious. I am more curious about whether this interpretation of the Force is based solely on faith or if there is more to it.
As to how we know these things, it depends of your definition of “know”. But that is really an argument in itself. Let’s just assume that by “knowing” we mean the comprehension of a concept to the best ability that we are able in our limited capacity in this reality. So in that context would you agree that if "The Force" is an actual existent “thing” (i.e. a something that has properties) there has to also exist truth about its nature? And as well, those that have not found those truths, can have misconceptions about that nature? But as each Jedi individually “progresses” they will acquire experience through time and with enough effort will eventually come to find common components of that collection of singly discernible, universal truths about its nature? This would be the thing that binds all Jedi together, the search for that truth. These are truths that cannot be taught to a Jedi by any other, only revealed to each Jedi by The Force itself as they are able to fathom them.
Take a concept such as quantum mechanics compared to Newtonian physics for example. The quantum world is an underlying fabric of our Newtonian reality and to try to understand why it works will boggle the mind. This is also the nature of “The Force” in relation to the human condition. But the enigma in the search for the meaning of this relationship between The Force and humanity is where things get a bit paradoxical. Because the deeper we delve into its mysteries the more we begin to comprehend that its mysteries are not meant to be understood. This is the very mystery of existence. We ask ourselves why we are here and what is our purpose? But there are no answers for these questions. It is not meant to be understood. It’s the search that matters, not the knowledge. Like the Tao, the second you try to cast “The Force” into a role, as soon as you put a label on it, as soon as you name it and give it life by virtue of your investment you take away all its power and it becomes nothing more than an event - it is no longer a spiritual revelation, but simply a material occurrence. It’s the collapse of that quantum wave state into a finite position. “The Force” is not something to be observed or harnessed, it is just to be experienced.
I should apologize. My use of the word misconstrue was probably inappropriate. I think there are endless layers to “The Force”. How deeply down the rabbit hole one wants to delve is a decision each of us must make on our individual paths. Some will achieve more than others. It does not make anyone’s comprehension at any point in time wrong per say, maybe just less correct than it could be, if you will? And as we each struggle to define what that true nature is, we debate and discuss endlessly. And I’m not saying I have any answers either. None of us do, that is the paradox! LOL. This is just my personal and limited grasp of “The Force” that I have gleaned during my time in communion with it. And I think that is what it takes, a deliberate and dedicated unity, an intentional relationship with “The Force” but also a surrender to its power and mystery. When we realize we can know nothing is when our journey begins. Everything else is just preparation for that journey.
And as for the animal aspect to it. I think they manifest this better than any of us do because they don’t contemplate their place in the cosmos. They are natural born facilitators of the power because they accept it without question. They "just are" and they "just do" and that innocent surrender makes them very powerful in The Force! In fact they probably have mastery over powers we can not even imagine LOL!
^This! You and I have a very similar understanding about the Force, mainly that we will never understand it. That doesn't stop us from trying, though! Thanks for putting your thoughts here in a way that I can learn from them. Our conversations are always great for me.
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