I think people are falling for it

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8 years 4 months ago #210163 by
And they shouldn't really. Whether it's whites against blacks with the whole police violence or non-Muslims against Muslims, there is serious divide and conquer mentality here. All of these people are so busy hating each other, they aren't even aware they are being manipulated by people that far worse though.

Can anyone see the pattern here. How all of this stuff is happening? This should be a time to unite and protect one another because something big is seriously happening. Notice the patterns.

Ok, there's definitely a divide and conquer vibe going on. Follow the money. Who's profiting from this? Who's instigating, who's the influence? Many times in history the ones who profited from the war are the ones that started the war so they can get the profit. It's not hard to start one as many times in history, an unknown group would take two sides and get them to fight each other.

The divide and conquer move is a great move to use if you want to take over. Look how well it's working with the media, when people look at Muslim terrorists on the news, they start thinking that all Muslims are the same. Same way with whites and blacks when they keep reporting blacks being killed or abused by white officers, you see blacks and whites fighting against each other.


For example, if Germany and Russia were at peace, one group can go over and start trouble in Germany and then one of them says, "Look at what those Russians have done! They are the ones that did this!" Which riles the Germans. And sometimes they can start trouble on the other side and would say "Those Germans did it!" Then you have two sides being manipulated into fighting each other which keeps them busy from figuring out who the real enemy is, all while they make a profit.

I say profit because more often than not, someone profits from war, usually by those who secretly started it. Sometimes it is difficult to tell if they know they are bad and don't care or they honestly believe what they're doing is right? Either way, they are wrong for doing such things.

It's all very strange. You have ISIS, a group that should have been defeated eons ago since entire nations shouldn't be struggling this much to defeat them, all while groups are fighting against each other and liberties are being restricted. Does no one find this strange? Does anyone see the pattern?

Patterns are there. Just because one doesn't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. When I say patterns I am also referring to history because this not the first kind of divide and conquer mentality that's happened on Earth. If you read history it's easier to notice the patterns when someone in the present tries to do the same thing. Such as the whole "We have to disarm everyone to make sure everyone is safe" when almost all the time it's so civilians can't protect themselves against a tyrannical government though. People in the past have done this and people in the present are doing that now. It's the same thing I see all the time

Conflict gets started, innocent people get caught in the crossfire due to thinking they are associated with the criminals, like with the Islamic terrorists and Muslims, you have people fight against each other, cause panic, step in and proclaim you have a solution which is to take away arms so you can run them over easier and restrict their liberties so you won't have opposition and will keep and eye on them to make sure they won't revolt and then you have a divided group that is defenseless and monitored. This has happened before. Although scenarios were different the plan was still the same though.

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8 years 4 months ago - 8 years 4 months ago #210164 by
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George Soros funds the Ferguston style protestors and others who advocate violence against police in Baltimore. He admitted responsibility for coup and mass murder in Ukraine. Ok so him and his cronies fund all this and then get on tv warning of social unrest, WW3... yeah you are right.......... :sick:
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8 years 4 months ago #210167 by
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He does have a lot to do with it. I think there are some serious strings being pulled here and the ones that pull the strings might be people never even heard of or seen in public. Soros admitted to that. And these quotes should make people take a second glance at them

"First they came for the communists,
and I did not speak out because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists,
and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me...
and there was no one left to speak out for me."
~Martin Niemoeller - Prisoner in a Nazi concentration camp during WWII.

"If the American people ever allow PRIVATE BANKS [The Federal Reserve / Bank of Canada...] to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered...I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies... The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."
~Thomas Jefferson

"For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. IT IS A SYSTEM WHICH HAS CONSCRIPTED VAST HUMAN AND MATERIAL RESOURCES INFO THE BUILDING OF A TIGHTLY KNIT, HIGHLY EFFICIENT MACHINE THAT COMBINES MILITARY, DIPLOMATIC, INTELLIGENCE, ECONOMIC, SCIENTIFIC AND POLITICAL OPERATIONS. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."
~John F. Kennedy, The President and The Press Speech, 1961

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine, and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their PROMISES OF DISCRETION for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to DEVELOP OUR PLAN FOR THE WORLD if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during these years. But the world is now more sophisticated and PREPARED TO MARCH TOWARDS A WORLD GOVERNMENT which will never again know war, but only peace and prosperity for the whole of humanity. The supranational sovereignty of an INTELLECTUAL ELITE and WORLD BANKERS is surely preferable to the national auto determination practiced in the past centuries."
~David Rockefeller in an address to the Bilderberger group in Baden-Baden, Germany, June 10, 1991.

“TODAY AMERICANS WOULD BE OUTRAGED IF U.N. TROOPS ENTERED LOS ANGELES TO RESTORE ORDER; TOMORROW THEY WILL BE GRATEFULl! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated (fake), that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS WILL BE WILLINGLY RELINQUISHED for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their WORLD GOVERNMENT."
~Henry Kissinger in an address to the Bilderberger group in Evian, France, May 21, 1992.

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate INFLUENCE THEY CLAIM WE WIELD OVER AMERICAN POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC INSTITUTIONS. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘INTERNATIONALISTS’ and of conspiring with others around the world to BUILD A MORE INTEGRATED GLOBAL POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC STRUCTURE - one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I STAND GUILTY AND I AM PROUD OF IT.
~David Rockefeller, from his autobiography “Memoirs”

TIME Online: New World Order for the Economy -
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/articl...

"In SEARCHING FOR A NEW ENEMY TO UNITE US, WE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA THAT pollution, THE THREAT OF GLOBAL WARMING, water shortages, famine and the like WOULD FIT THE BILL... All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. THE REAL ENEMY, THEN, IS HUMANITY ITSELF."
~ The First Global Revolution: A Report by the Council of the Club of Rome (global think tank) [September, 1991]
http://www.clubofrome.org/eng/home/
http://www.amazon.com/First-Global-Revol...

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8 years 4 months ago #210177 by
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Sorry I can't view the picture for some reason. Is there another link?

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8 years 4 months ago - 8 years 4 months ago #210179 by Gisteron
Is this a poodle or a pony?

Normally I'd go out of my way to find something more substantive than that, but... The thing with conspiracy theories is not that they are collecting falsehoods. Rather they embarassingly prematurely conclude connections.
There is no poodle nor a pony in that image. There is a cloud. All your eyes see is a cloud. Your brain does the rest. Nature doesn't operate on patterns. Nor do people. Our brains try and work with them, because they are thinking shortcuts, saving sugar for more urgent thoughts that can't be solved with patterns alone. Remember, that thing evolved to run from bears and capture mammoths. Never think of it as infallible. Never find yourself having it all figured out.

Better to leave questions unanswered than answers unquestioned
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8 years 4 months ago #210182 by
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I think people have become so conditioned to think all conspiracy theories are false and people make them up for no reason other than to get attention. Some aren't that accurate but there are some that have truth in them, more than one would think. Some people are quick to say they are crazy because what they say doesn't fit with their perception of reality or it's not what they are used to hearing or status quo, so they call them crazy because they don't know what else to call them. Lot of famous people were also called crazy in the past before and turned out they weren't crazy and were actually right.

What I would find strange is people saying that there is no NWO even though there's countless rich folk, politicians ect. that are constantly saying it and admitting it, like with the quotes I pulled. The world domination thing is not exactly a huge stretch. How many people have tried to do that? Almost every empire in history has attempted to take over everything and some corrupt government have betrayed their people so I don't know why people think this idea is so implausible when it's happened over and over. Way back in history they used swords and arrows and other things to rule the Earth. Don't you think now, with the addition of media manipulation, subliminal messages, advanced technology ect, someone would use that to take advantage?

I don't know if some people disbelieve because they think it's literally impossible, or they don't want to believe something like that. As in they'd rather live a lie with their head in the sand rather than accept the truth. Some will demand proof but the strange thing is if some people had the proof, some would still not believe it because they refuse to.

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8 years 4 months ago #210185 by Gisteron
For every one you can name who turned out correct despite being laughed at at the time, there was a thousand who are forgotten now because they turned out as wrong as people said they were.
I don't recall calling what you say either false or crazy. I recall saying to not trust yourself and actually test it. Give us results, not claims. Evidence, not mere assertions. Plausibility is irrelevant.

Better to leave questions unanswered than answers unquestioned
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8 years 4 months ago #210186 by
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I know you yourself never said that but I just wonder because I have seen people say similar things and are just dismissed by others. And don't even bother coming up with some retort and to explain why such things can't happen. Just that it's crazy.

There's tons of evidence but people want proof which isn't the same thing as evidence. Some evidence is more subtle than others. But I think that you have this sort of Divide and Conquer vibe going on in the world, seeing politicians react poorly to conflicts and then claim the best way to do that is to restrict you. Like with the TSA after 9/11, violating your rights by giving pat downs, looking through personal belongings, and radiating your body with body scanners. It's not like terrorism is a new thing, it's an ancient thing, yet before 9/11 such safety measures were not necessary. If you declare a war on terror, than the war goes on forever. Because who are you declaring war? You're not declaring war at a certain country or state, the war just goes on forever. That's why it's lasted so long because you can't define a winner.

Doing things in the name of safety is an old trick many leaders have done. Even way back, some civilizations like in Japan restricted the use of swords to prevent an uprising. Many communist, socialist, and the Nazi's restricted the use of arms to prevent people from revolting but always used the excuse of "safety". They keep hammering that word in and of course when you tell a lie over and over, eventually people begin to believe it.

They also love to use scapegoats. When some people do bad things, they look for a group to blame to get you distracted and occupied so you won't know who the real enemy is. It's an old trick that's been used and is being used. One of the most important things I've learned is that not everything's as it seems.

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8 years 4 months ago #210187 by Edan

Yabuturtle wrote: I know you yourself never said that but I just wonder because I have seen people say similar things and are just dismissed by others. And don't even bother coming up with some retort and to explain why such things can't happen. Just that it's crazy.


It's a little like the story of 'the boy who cried wolf'... having a family member who believes every conspiracy theory going from aliens built the pyramids to the queen is a lizard to the world is ruled by the illuminati, it does become a little like background noise after a while..

It won't let me have a blank signature ...

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