Non deliberate contact?

I knew what you meant. Do you think it's likely?

I do think it's possible and likely that we can consciously have an impact on others, so the reverse must be true that they can have an impact on us, especially if we're sleeping and they're awake.

I think that it happens far more than people realize. The question then becomes how often do people notice it or realize it?

Everything we do effects change on some level. What you’re talking about is not considered to be “real” by a lot of people. Or they have some doubt to its validity, so it isn’t considered very often.

I would be more interested in knowing the degree the occurrence was realized, or what the level of effect was.

"Human kind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together."

Chief Seattle, Suquamish 1786-1866

Do you believe that it is possible to come into contact with other people or "energies" while asleep without intending to?

Of course!

soya wrote: I do think it's possible and likely that we can consciously have an impact on others, so the reverse must be true that they can have an impact on us, especially if we're sleeping and they're awake.

This guy just busted the question...

"Do you believe that it is possible to come into contact with other people or "energies" while asleep without intending to?
"

Yes, if someone enters the room and touches you. :silly: :whistle:

I’m going to have nightmares now!

Ren sneaking into my room while I’m asleep and… touching me!!! :ohmy:

Thanks Ren…

Hahahhahahhahha :woohoo:

LOCK YOUR DOORS AND WINDOWS!

ren wrote:

soya wrote: I do think it's possible and likely that we can consciously have an impact on others, so the reverse must be true that they can have an impact on us, especially if we're sleeping and they're awake.

This guy just busted the question...

"Do you believe that it is possible to come into contact with other people or "energies" while asleep without intending to?
"

Yes, if someone enters the room and touches you. :silly: :whistle:

This is not at all what I meant, but it is hilarious! :D:D

There have been times where I have been asleep and have most definitely come into contact with some strange forms of energy. To me this topic relates to that of connecting with the Force. My theory is that perhaps you enter a deep meditative state while you are asleep sometimes and unknowingly make this connection with the Force; you open your pathways and the energy really flows. When you connect you are aware of all the energies around you and they can affect you in various ways. Since you are asleep the memory portion of your brain doesn't function as it would when you were awake and all that has transpired would remain largely unconscious to you. As far as someone deliberately interacting with you through their energy and yours, I would say this could only be possible through them also being as connected to the Force as you are, however they would be awake or dreaming lucidly. This is only a hypothesis but I find it very possible especially for an open-minded person as you seem to be Brenna.

May the Force be with you,
Rai

Brenna Do you believe that it is possible to come into contact with other people or "energies" while asleep without intending to? Im aware that this seems vauge but I dont really know enough to expand on it further (Yet anyway)

Simple answer: Yes.

soya wrote: Some people believe that dreams are merely an unconscious trip

Not merely an unconscious trip, but a conscious trip into what is normally your unconsciousness. But the real question is to ask what is consciousness?

Connor Lidell wrote: we are all one with a Divine energy that spreads through all living beings.

Another name for this divine energy is called the Zero Point Field. Some of these answers really are answered in the book, "The Field, by Lynn Mctaggert," in the first few chapters. That is for those who read it.

sundex sky wrote: I believe we are all connected, whether we're awake or asleep.

The idea behind the Zero Point Field is that everything is energy. It does not matter what you look at it is energy, no matter what you feel that is energy, no matter what you hear it is energy, no matter what you taste it is energy, you smell something yep guess what it is energy. All this energy no matter where it is influences all the energy around it. Matter is nothing but energy collapsed into eddies. These eddies are double vortexes. What is a vortex? A tornado is a vortex. A double vortex would be where the tornado touches the ground another tornado is there. An X is like a double vortex if you can not visualize it. At the center of the double vortex is where matter comes into being. The vortex center is also a tear into spacetime, not a tear out of it. Within these vortex's is where consciousness arises.

sundex sky wrote: I believe we are all connected, whether we're awake or asleep. However i do believe we can unintentionally come into contact with other energies when sleeping. I think maybe because the conscious mind is switched off, the unconscious mind has free reign and is not bound by the same limitations of our conscious mind or physical body.

Not so much as switched off. When we fall asleep we no longer use the UPSIDE of consciousness, instead we use the DOWNSIDE of consciousness. To understand this go back to the double vortex, at the point where the vortexes meet is where consciousness and matter and space comes into existence. Now between these two vortexes is a spherical tear that creates space-time. This spherical tear has an upside and a downside like the earth has a north and south pole. The upside being consciousness while the downside is unconsciousness. Yet both are one, there really is no separation between conscious thought and unconscious thought. It is we who give it seperation because to understand this is to understand that we are all one, and that all time is now, and that all space is here.

Brenna What about other people/energy having an impact on you?

ren wrote: I don't think there's anything particularly interesting about sleep: Why would we not be more likely to come into contact with "energies" when we eat a plant or animal? I mean, you can't be more "in contact" than that: they literally become a part of you.
Also, everything we encounter always has an impact on us.

The importance of sleep is of course to balance energy. Remember both poles must be in balance for consciousness to be in balance. Without this balance of course leads to hallucinations due to sleep deprivation.

Brenna I suppose I should have been more clear. I meant a concious and deliberate impact.

Desolous wrote: that can rarely be achieved even in ones conscious state. so no, IMO.

Little bit of a contradiction there in this sentence? Can rarely be achieved, implies that it can be achieved.

Wescli Wardest wrote: To answer your question Brenna... yes.

I agree with Wescli here.

Brenna Do you think it's likely?

soya wrote: I do think it's possible and likely that we can consciously have an impact on others, so the reverse must be true that they can have an impact on us, especially if we're sleeping and they're awake.

If you hit someone you are having a conscious impact on them, are you not? As far unconsciousness goes logic would dictate that if the upside of the vortex of consciousness can affect someone then the downside of the vortex of consciousness can affect someone also.

Wescli Wardest wrote: I think that it happens far more than people realize. The question then becomes how often do people notice it or realize it? Everything we do effects change on some level. What you’re talking about is not considered to be “real” by a lot of people. Or they have some doubt to its validity, so it isn’t considered very often. I would be more interested in knowing the degree the occurrence was realized, or what the level of effect was.

Now this is an amazing statement. Unconsciousness has more impact upon our consciousness because they are actually really one in the same. Both unconscious and conscious are part of the same coin. Then Wes said, "What your talking about is not considered to be "real" by a lot of people" Well this question begs the question, "what is real and how do you determine what is real?" By sight, smell, taste, hearing, and feeling? We all of these are also within dreams, so based on those requirements dreams are "real." Think about that for awhile. I will leave you with this thought, DREAMS ARE REAL.