'We Have To Stop Calling Each Other Fat'

I always liked Jennifer Lawrence, and not because she was in the Hunger Games. She's down to earth and more level-headed than the vast majority of celebrities. While I agree that over-eating is unhealthy, I agree more with the idea of not measuring each other and judging others based on their size.

So you apply what works for you for others?

I accept that there may be possibilities and pieces to the puzzle I am not aware of. I try to think of the most reasonable or logical path or cause and consider it as a possibility. I try to not accuse others or jump to quick conclusions or judgments. It is easy to set back and point the finger, it is a whole other ball of wax to be in their shoes and know what is going on with them and in their life.

Also, knowing something is hardly as impressive as doing something about it.

Knowing is the first step in doing something about it. And I admire her courage for speaking out publicly, in the media; and not just setting around on an internet forum and accusing people.

A drug addict can admit as much, but can they give it up?

Now who is using extreme examples to make a point?


I used McDonald's as an example and probably not the best example. Their food is not as bad as it was in the 90’s and they have done a lot to improve not only the quality of their food but the products and choices they offer. I feel that McDonald's still suffers the bad rep it got years ago and has not been given fair reconsideration by those that have condemned it.

All things in moderation. I don’t think the choice to eat fast food on a regular basis is good for anyone and contributes to the poor health of a society. But it is the individuals who make the choice to eat there.

in some cultures having a little meat on the bones is a good thing, it shows health, and wealth...or at least skill to acquire food...

As a guy I'm not attracted to women that are too skinny nor too heavy...if their ribs look like a xylophone there's something wrong, conversely if they look like jabba the hutt there is also something wrong...either case is unhealthy and therefore unattractive, at least to me but to someone else one or the other may be the epitome of beauty...attraction varies by culture and individual...who am I to say that my standards of attraction are the only universally right standards? Who is anyone to say such a thing?...my standards are just that, my standards not anyone else's...someone else's standards are just that, someone else's... two expressions come to mind: "to each, his own" and "if it makes you happy".....

Wescli Wardest wrote: I used McDonald's as an example and probably not the best example. Their food is not as bad as it was in the 90’s and they have done a lot to improve not only the quality of their food but the products and choices they offer. I feel that McDonald's still suffers the bad rep it got years ago and has not been given fair reconsideration by those that have condemned it.

All things in moderation. I don’t think the choice to eat fast food on a regular basis is good for anyone and contributes to the poor health of a society. But it is the individuals who make the choice to eat there.

Well I haven't had McDonald's in the US in over 10 years. I remember when I started working there, it was the same quality as it was out here. Everything was so fresh. Even the biscuits were made fresh. I know because I was the morning biscuit girl. I was at work every morning at 5am to bake the biscuits. LOL

Then they were replaced by premade ones of lesser quality. The beef was replaced with something with a lot of fillers. The fries were replaced with... I don't even know what you would call it, but turned to cardboard within ten minutes of frying them (and so did the meat). I was really disappointed watching the quality of the food go downhill. It's nice to hear that they're actually getting better with that again.

When my husband and I get our rock climbing centre up and running, we're going to have a big focus on living a healthy lifestyle and teaching people how they can do that and still have fun and not starve themselves (which is the complete opposite of healthy). One of the things we want to do is open a healthy fast food cafe, which will be located in the centre, but open to the public as well.

The thing is a lot of people choose fast food because it's fast, easy and fairly inexpensive compared to eating in other places. Especially if you only have a certain amount of time for lunch. So we want to create a healthy and fast alternative to eating at the more traditional fast food places. We're planning to hire a nutritionist as our consultant to get a good balance of food for everyone whether they eat meat or don't. We also want to look into options for people with food allergies and sensitivities. Like having a completely separate area of the kitchen as the "nut free" zone.

Wescli Wardest wrote: I heard an interview with Jennifer Lawrence and I really liked what she had to say. I wanted to find the video for you all, but I have not been able to. But... I have found the transcript...

'We Have To Stop Calling Each Other Fat': Jennifer Lawrence

The 23-year-old has always been refreshingly honest about her views on dieting and her looks based industry, and now she's taken it one step further by insisting that shows like Fashion Police should be reigned in.

During a Q&A session for Yahoo, the actress opinioned: "The world has this idea that if you don't look like an airbrushed perfect model… You have to see past it. You look how you look, you have to be comfortable."
She added: "What are you going to do? Be hungry every single day to make other people happy? That's just dumb.

"There are shows like Fashion Police that are just showing these generations of young people to judge people based on all the wrong values and that it's okay to point at people and call them ugly or fat."


The actress is adamant that being supportive of each other is the way to go instead of critcising: "They call it 'fun' and they say 'welcome to the real world' - and that shouldn't be the real world," she declared. "It's going to continue being the real world if we keep it that way. We have to stop treating each other like that and stop calling each other fat."

"There are unrealistic expectations for women, it's disappointing that the media keeps it alive and fuels that fire. It's something that really bothers me - because I love to eat."

Jennifer recently admitted that early in her career she was told to diet in order to score the big parts, adding to Harpers Bazaar UK that nowadays "if anybody even tries to whisper the word 'diet,' I'm like, 'You can go f*ck yourself.'"

All I can say is thank you.

What a pile of feminist feel-good non-sense. She's an actress. It's quite normal for actors to be asked to gain or lose weight. The fact is there is no problem with people getting confused by the media over what a normal body looks like. Our definitions of underweight, overweight, and obese are scientific in nature. Not statistical, not defined by "elle" or "people".

She wants to work for them, take their money, but not play by their rules? And they say french unions are unreasonable.... Don't want people to have unreasonable expectations of women? Why don't you stop caking yourselves in makeup, putting on padded push-ups? And before anyone says "yes but patriarchy", allow me to point out I don't see any dads going to boots to advise their 13-year-old, and they don't seem too keen on "toddlers and tiaras" either.

The fact is, we're all supposed to be dieting, that is, eat what our bodies need, instead of all the rubbish we actually stuff ourselves with. She's american, she should know that. I mean over there we're talking 70% overweight and a good 30% obesity.

I find her insulting to those (many) of us who do diet, not because we want to take money from some magazine, but because if we don't we're going to die very early ( and horribly too).

The problem isn't just losing weight. It's the fact that they expect them to lose it in the most unhealthy ways. And no, she shouldn't have to lose weight for anyone but herself. If they don't want someone who is overweight on their set then it's simple. They don't hire her.

If I wanted Jennifer to work for me I wouldn't ask her to lose weight. She can wear any kind of make up or clothing she wants.

I wonder, how many people here blame video games for violence?

So why would you blame movies for unrealistic expectations for such, and such?

Are movies representive of reality?

No more so than a video game.

Actors job is to play a role, working out, gaining weight, cutting weight, makeup, dying hair.

Actors that couldnt act, or fufill a role would be poor at there craft.

Such is the dedication, commitment, and skill, they apply to there profession.

Fighters cut weight and gain weight all the time. Nt for looks either, and this extends to ment and women. Those at the MMA gym I practice BJJ at have to all the time. They dont complain about it, or the "unrealistic standards" it sets.

Its part of the sacrifice for there craft, just another part of the training.

Certainly one can point to the negatives...

However the positives it teaches, dedication, discipline, sacrifice, commitment, etc.

All important, to any path.

Burger King says you can have it your way, lol, and that type of fast food thinking is indiciative of the poor attitude people apply to there paths.

There is a ton of science to back up health. You can argue with the "standards" all you want, but doctors have to face the realities of such lifestyles everyday. The numbers, and information given in regards to health is not made up by personal opinion, or in a void. There is very real facts in regards to what is offered. It is not based on what hollywood finds popular at the time.

I work in healthcare (RN) I have seen the effects of living unhealthy. Diabetes and resulting amputations, heart problems, high blood pressure, breathing problems, loss of mobility, of being able to clean oneself properly, etc, etc.

Funny how much people could avoid just by losing a bit of weight ant paying attention to the very good and accurate information out there.

I may be wrong but I believe that she is not meaning being asked to lose weight to be healthy but to lose weight to fit a certain aesthetic. Which as an actress, it makes sense. A director has a vision of what he wants and is entitled to create it the way he wants. But, as an actress, is also a very visible reminder of said aesthetic to the general population.

I think what she is talking about is an expectation, defined by the social narrative for people to look a certain way in order to be valued by the whole. A narrative that is unfortunately tied to message of “You are not good enough unless…” which creates an expectation that is very difficult to fulfill.
Emotionally manipulative advertising, to both men and women is designed to play to our fears. Fears which we can allay by purchasing whatever is being sold. Whether it’s to a woman to be thinner and therefore more likely to find a partner, or to a man to hide his thinning hair line. For the same reason, the result is the same.

When you look at studies done that show attractive and slender men and women are more likely to be employed and are often paid more than less attractive counterparts, or the continuously rising rates of eating disorders, particularly in young men which has almost doubled in the last 10 years, it’s easy to see how this narrative has become the social norm for most ordinary people. Granted, some here are far less aware or influenced by it, but it does sadly exist.

And while it is part of their jobs to maintain a certain asthetic, actors are used as an illustration of what the average person whould aspire to. Sad but for the most part, true. And no one is safe. Not the beautiful Jennifer Lawrence, Nor the divine Mr Clooney.










That said, I am nervous of the “fat acceptance” movement (very unfeminist of me ) , not because I don’t think its important that we accept people for who they are beyond their appearance, but because I think its sends a dangerous message that it’s ok to not take care of yourself and be mindful of your own health.

Is the idea that we should stop calling people fat important because a person in the media says so? I mean if I didn’t get the message when it was taught to me in kindergarten, am I going to get it now because Jennifer said so? Is the message important because an actress says so? Isn’t facade her job! Or is the message important to me because I am on a spiritual path?

How do I know that this is even Jennifer’s message? Do I question whether or not it is the message of her handler’s with whom she is joined with for the common purpose of MONEY? Or do I make myself vulnerable to the media messages because of the way I value them?

Can the media make anyone fat? Or is it me that is not responsible for what I put in my mouth?

Are other people responsible for my beliefs and values?