Profiles - Gender

Edan wrote: I'm disappointed my request for the topic to be taken elsewhere (this was just a thread about adding a gender option to the profile) has been ignored.

I'm sorry, Edan. That is my fault. I was attempting to explain to MartaLina why the "Gender" field, specifically, is important, and instead I canned that response for something less than what I was trying to say, and then allowed myself to be sucked into the larger debate that occurred here instead of on the thread I started for it. I apologize and I am sorry.
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OB1Shinobi wrote:

rugadd wrote: Discussions on the character of the participants is not helpful in a public forum and should be relegated to private messaging. Honestly, these debates are hard enough to follow for us, the simple minded. Poo flinging(whether they deserve a face full of chips or not) is distasteful, unneeded filler.

i actually disagree with this - observers get the benefit of watching the emotions play out through the responses of the participants

in general, the relative privacy of PM's allows people to hide - youd be surprised how different some people are when the conversation isnt public

This is actually one of the reasons I chose the hide tag instead of taking it to PM. I had nothing to say that I wasn't ready to say in front of the entire actual membership of the Temple. Guests might get ther wrong idea, but people who call this their home should know who they're sharing it with, even if that someone is a hotheaded, emotionally-defensive loudmouth like myself.

Very well. Let me expound. I personally have a hard time following discussions when they derail into character attacks(or really, anything that isn't directly related to the subject being debated). For my sake(and those with the same issue), if you are so inclined, please minimize such behavior.

I don't post as often as I used too because I have a hard time separating the wisdom from the noise and forming a worth while opinion. that may contribute.

steamboat28 wrote:

ren wrote: As I explained in the thread adding new options to the list is easy, but not replacing the field with a text box without screwing up years of profiles, which are known to be quirky. As there's a plethora of genders and only 3 possible answers for sex, it made perfect sense.

Some people want gender, some people don't. I never envisioned changing "gender:male/female" which only covers a small portion of human population to "sex: male/female/neither", which covers 100% of the human population for such a tiny nothing on a %&*&$$ profile page could trigger such bullying at totjo, which I now think has got to be the most bigoted place I have ever frequented.

You're missing the obvious solution of adding choices to the dropdown of "Gender", which you just proved you could easily do when you changed it to "Sex."

2 problems were identified:

1: By edan; That there is no other choice than nothing, male, and female. Finding it silly at first, I agreed to create one due to it being easy and in line with totjo's sated goals.
2: By MartaLina; That "gender" is not quite the right word. Martalina, myself, and another member have pointed out, on multiple occasions, that other cultures do not have this concept of "gender" like you guys do, and therefore are forced to comply with your culture by using "gender" instead of the universal "sex". Changing this also is in line with totjo's stated goals.


But then the gender mafia shouted, and loud. Refused to acknowledge the needs of other cultures. You bullied. For something written on a standard user profile on a website.

You didn't even try to live with it for a day.


I don't need to hear more to know what kind of people you guys are.

And may i also point out that the use of the word gender is an inaccurate presentation of what you really want to achieve namely , acknowledgement to be called whatever the heck you want to be called , so how do you want to be adressed ? Lets for instance say that you are a Drama Queen? That is fine is that Drama Queen a He or a She ? People keep thinking that a dropdown menu for the word Gender will cover it all , but it will not , an open space will where we can tell stuff about ourselfes , ow wait , dont we have an about ME section .. Hi i am Marta Lina , one day i am a Drama Queen , tomorrow i am Butch Sunday ...

And now for the piece de resistance for arguments sake , how many of you actually LOOK at someone elses profile , i did and guess what i found , the person i wanted to look at has...restricted acces , the irony loll

i look at the name and the gender suggested buy the avatar

if your name or the picture i see below it indicates a gender, then you are that gender as far as i am concerned

MartaLina wrote: how many of you actually LOOK at someone elses profile , i did and guess what i found , the person i wanted to look at has...restricted acces , the irony loll

Never once. If I want to address someone in such a way (Which is rare) I ask them, or I observe the conversation and watch how others address them or how they address themselves through conversation and interaction. *shrugs*