Jedi Pyramid

Revisions on Fortitude, Objectivity, Recklessness, Spiritual Art and Defense:

Fortitude- Fortitude is the emotional strength and conviction to press forward in any given situation which poses an internal or external adversity. Developing fortitude allows a Jedi to show that they are not willing to give up until they have drawn their last breath.

Objectivity- A Jedi trains themselves to gain as much relevant information as possible before drawing their conclusions. Once intelligence has been collected, they approach the problem with as little cultural and emotional bias as possible so that they are able to develop a decision on their next action.

Recklessness- A Jedi does not take unnecessary risks, knowing that their life is important to the Jedi Mission of bettering the world around them. In overcoming recklessness, a Jedi acknowledges and is mindful of how small the impact is percieved to have on themselves or others.

Spiritual Art- A spiritual art may be as simple as developing meditation, but can go far beyond this. A Jedi may choose to develop a spiritual art aimed at connecting them with “the Force” through healing, seeking guidance, or simply developing their own self awareness.

Defense- Jedi are no vigilantes. If, however, they are in a position where they are called to defend themselves or someone else against loss of life, limb or eyesight, they are allowed to apply the appropriate amount of force necessary for defense.

I think the problem with the pyramid is practicality, the Jedi weren't known to hold a pyramid, only a central belief and each master gave a different path for that.

What I've got now- still need a new name. I'm going to take this to RJK and RJE next.

The Ineffable

The Force- “The Force” is a loosely adapted term to explain a something which all cultures agree exist, but disagree on exactly what it is. As such, a Jedi dedicates themselves to understanding of all things within and through “the Force”. As an unwritten rule, no Jedi can set down in law a concrete definition of “the Force” for all to follow, only for themselves.

Core Ethics

Loyalty to the Jedi Code- This has a few different variants depending on what order a Jedi attends. A Jedi is bound by the code, but not to the Jedi Order. By relinquishing your loyalties to the order, a government or some divine guiding force (not necessarily “the Force”) you are able to keep your actions in check through the moral integrity of the Jedi Path outlined in the Jedi Code. It is important that a Jedi checks their own version of the code against the original codes (Anderson and Skywalker Codes) before they adopt it.

Duty to the All- A Jedi's mission is to support their community (human, animal, plant or otherwise) through service. A Jedi is also charged with acting when they witness dangerous situations in an objective manner.

Respect the Law- A Jedi knows enough of the law to operate within it. Jedi should respect, and do their best to live by, the laws of the land they are living in. However, these are man's law, and like man, subject to flaws. A Jedi must act for the best interest of mankind as he/she sees the situation.

Defense- Jedi are no vigilantes. If, however, they are in a position where they are called to defend themselves or someone else against loss of life, limb or senses, they are allowed to apply the appropriate amount of force necessary for defense.

Action- A Jedi recognizes that there are times when getting involved with a situation is against the will of the person they are seeking to assist, or that helping them may be more detrimental in the long run. As such, a Jedi seeks inner wisdom to determine when to act and when not to act.

Self Awareness

Interior- A Jedi works to become aware of their emotions and things which make them “tick”. They learn of their flaws and strengths, seeking to reconcile a life with those flaws which they cannot change and the strengths they have been blessed with. In this a Jedi must be constantly looking inward for their motivations, their directions, what moves them, and why they allow it to do so.

Exterior- It is important that a Jedi be aware of the person they present to those around them, and how that will affect the dynamic of the groups they find themselves in. How one's presence is received will determine whether or not the next steps will be met with hostility or acceptance.

Virtues

Tolerance- You do not need to agree with someone's religion, their nationality, their career choice, their dress or anything else for that matter. Tolerance is not about acceptance, it is about showing respect for the freedom of a persons choices and to respect their choices, until it reaches a point in which a reasonable person would consider the individual's actions as a/an (emotionally, spiritually, financially, and/or physically) abusive threat to you or another person.

Responsibility- Responsibility is at the heart of learning to overcome our problems. A Jedi should be held responsible for all of their actions. Without it, we cannot grow, we cannot help others and we cannot justify why we are to be taken seriously.

Discipline- In order to walk the Jedi Path, you need to live by your training and by the philosophy of the Light. It is your responsibility to continue your growth throughout the rest of your life. Even while you are training with a mentor or taking a course at an order, it is discipline that will get you through to your knighthood and later on your masterhood.

Fortitude- Fortitude is the emotional strength and conviction to press forward in any given situation which poses an internal or external adversity. Developing fortitude allows a Jedi to show that they are not willing to give up until they have drawn their last breath.

Integrity- Integrity is about doing what is morally right. A Jedi should hold themselves to a high standard knowing that what they do when no one is looking is just as important as what they do when people are looking. To determine what is morally right, a Jedi seeks to define their understanding of "the will of the 'the Force'".

Objectivity- A Jedi trains themselves to gain as much relevant information as possible before drawing their conclusions. Once intelligence has been collected, they approach the problem with as little cultural and emotional bias as possible so that they are able to develop a decision on their next action.

Subjugate

Aggression- To build on the Jedi Virtues, a Jedi must keep themselves open to the world. Through the misuse of aggression, they miss out on opportunities to further their cause. This does not preclude being assertive. A Jedi needs to learn to find the most effective means of resolving a conflict through the least bit of hostility possible.

Recklessness-  A Jedi does not take unnecessary risks, knowing that their life is important to the Jedi Mission of bettering the world around them. In overcoming recklessness, a Jedi acknowledges and is mindful of how small the impact is percieved to have on themselves or others.

Attachments- Overcoming/Subjagating your attachments is not about getting rid of all your possessions or even denouncing your family, instead this is about forward movement. In overcoming/subjagating your attachments, you are acknowledging what value these things have to you, and you recognize that there comes a time when you should no longer fight for your attachments, and you must let go. For a Jedi overcoming/subjagating attachments can extend to bad habits, unhealthy obsessions, and connections to people that make us less who we have chosen to be.

Prowess

Defense Art- A “Defense Art” is not necessarily physical in nature, it can be through speech, writing, diplomacy, art or a number of other options which lead to an active method of curing the world of oppression. Like many of the other disciplines, you may find that your Defense Art is the same as another art (Physical, Scholarly, or Spiritual).

Physical Art- A physical art may be overlooked in circumstances such as physical disablement or other similarly limiting conditions. However, if a Jedi has some or all mobility, they should seek a physical art (Martial Arts, Yoga, Ballet, Weight Lifting, Running, etc) which keeps them them in shape and focuses on maintaining discipline of their bodies. Part of the physical art, which can be observed by all Jedi regardless of their mobility, is health. A Jedi should eat right, and maintain their health to the best of their ability..

Scholarly Art- A Jedi should seek out skills that provide benefit to them and the people around them. The search for knowledge is fundamental to Jedi as one never stops learning, seeking knowledge or bettering their skills.

Spiritual Art- A spiritual art may be as simple as developing meditation, but can go far beyond this. A Jedi may choose to develop a spiritual art aimed at connecting them with “the Force” through healing, seeking guidance, or simply developing their own self awareness.

if I may ask, I don't care if I look like an idiot for doing so (I 'll check earlier posts), I'm curious because I actually to a degree, like what you have done

what was the inspiriation?

I happen to be a member of every order within the Jedi Community (and if there are some I'm not, it is with very limited places). Since 2008 I've seen debate after debate regarding how a Jedi should train or what qualifies a Jedi. For a long time, I was on board with Opie MacLeod's "Jedi Circle", but that document has been regarded with little enthusiasm because it either has the stigma that Opie doesn't like people to use it beyond him teaching it, it lists something within the document which the majority doesn't agree with or in the case of all of my apprentices- it didn't explain the Jedi Path, it just gave a bunch of stuff for someone to study and hopefully get the point by the end. So I decided to give up on turning the Jedi Circle into something it just isn't and thought: Let's see where the parallels are!

Every order provided inspiration for this document, as well as the wookiepedia page "Jedi Code" and the book "The Jedi Path" to cross reference. Particularly, "The Jedi Path" provided me with the information I needed to get rid of Martial Arts as a requirement, and the Skywalker code gave validity to keeping "Defense Art" within the document.

My motivation is the community as a whole. I've seen it too many times "If only they [other orders, doesn't matter which order says it, we all do] that we aren't so different!" only to have egos or lack of time get in the way of actual progress to prove this. But I'm determined to see that this wish comes true, that everyone can see we are indeed all on the same page (some more strict than others, but it's still there).

Back on TJW, I though "people better put their money where their mouths are", and Jedi supposedly being selfless and all, I put a clause in the TJW user agreement which made everyone agree the teachings they post on TJW would automatically become public domain. Similar to wikipedia, but PD instead of CC/FDL.

And Opie posted his jedi circle When I pointed it out to him and asked him if he knew what it meant (the agreement was between me and the users, I had no PD notice on site, no-one but me could have made a claim to it being PD) he bitched like he was the voice of all women on earth on the rag at the same time.

I wouldnt use the jedi circle because Opie made it and I know how full of poo he is: clearly the circle doesn't make one a Jedi. :whistle:

"The Jedi Compass"?

We call ourselves Jedi, which would be a common starting point...

Say the center of the compass...

But we fan out in many different directions from that point...

“Conscience is a man's compass.”
~Vincent van Gogh~

Just in case some people never watch my V-Log this is my response to the thread.

Alethea Thompson wrote: I've seen debate after debate regarding ...... what qualifies a Jedi.

Me too It should be really self explanatory shouldn't it?

maynoth wrote:

Alethea Thompson wrote: I've seen debate after debate regarding how a Jedi should train or what qualifies a Jedi.

Me too It should be really self explanatory shouldn't it?

Always with you it is the fighting and the force powers. Hear you nothing else that is said?