There is no truth...

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all there is is "NOW",and that perception in the "NOW" is truth...


I think you nailed it.

of course it depends on how you define..... ;)

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10 years 5 months ago #110853 by Jestor
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Rickie The Grey wrote:

all there is is "NOW",and that perception in the "NOW" is truth...


I think you nailed it.

of course it depends on how you define..... ;)


lol... :laugh:

Of course..
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"If you are seeking an absolute truth you will not find it. Only truth that applies to you." -Oma Desala, Stargate SG1

That's the best think I can add to this :)

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Adhara wrote: "If you are seeking an absolute truth you will not find it. Only truth that applies to you." -Oma Desala, Stargate SG1

That's the best think I can add to this :)


Bingo!

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Streen wrote:

Proteus wrote: This is a paradoxical statement.

"There is no truth"
If that is the truth, then it falsifies itself.
If that is not the truth, then itself is falsified.



I was thinking the same thing. It's like saying "everything I tell you is a lie".


Hmm always open to the possibility/probability of being wrong but I don't think "everything I tell you is a lie is really a paradox. the first statement "There is no truth" like Proteus say's contradicts itself, the latter well...
To me I really agree (yes I'm biased Streen) that "everything I tell you is a lie". you can never really experience or absorb the whole "truth" of what I try and convey to you, I have my perceptions and my preconceptions which shape my experience of a person, thing or event. No matter how verbosely I describe an experience, or how open to my experience you are you will never have that exact experience. We might align to the point that as we try and convey a thought or experience we even describe it to people in the exact same words but your experience remains yours and mine remains mine, the best we can do is try and share those thoughts or experiences and hope that others can gain the same enjoyment, benefit or knowledge imparted by them. To me that doesn't make a contradiction.

Then again dude "everything I tell you is a lie"

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10 years 5 months ago #110902 by Jestor
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Vergere82 wrote:

Streen wrote:

Proteus wrote: This is a paradoxical statement.

"There is no truth"
If that is the truth, then it falsifies itself.
If that is not the truth, then itself is falsified.



I was thinking the same thing. It's like saying "everything I tell you is a lie".


Hmm always open to the possibility/probability of being wrong but I don't think "everything I tell you is a lie is really a paradox. the first statement "There is no truth" like Proteus say's contradicts itself, the latter well...
To me I really agree (yes I'm biased Streen) that "everything I tell you is a lie". you can never really experience or absorb the whole "truth" of what I try and convey to you, I have my perceptions and my preconceptions which shape my experience of a person, thing or event. No matter how verbosely I describe an experience, or how open to my experience you are you will never have that exact experience. We might align to the point that as we try and convey a thought or experience we even describe it to people in the exact same words but your experience remains yours and mine remains mine, the best we can do is try and share those thoughts or experiences and hope that others can gain the same enjoyment, benefit or knowledge imparted by them. To me that doesn't make a contradiction.

Then again dude "everything I tell you is a lie"


The paradox is in the single statement...

If "everything I tell you is a lie", then the fact I say this to you, is also a lie, therefore I am telling the truth, which I cannot, because "Everything I tell you is a lie"...

I quite agree with the rest of your statement, but, this is the flip side of "There is not truth"...

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