The Force powers as we know them

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30 Nov 2019 00:41 #346471 by
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Ok guys lots of great responses and ideas!! Thanks so much. Ok let me try and address them!

Gist, already responded to you!

Kelrax, my goal is target audience. My secondary goal was minimizing useless debate. However I also never said it was not allowed or that I thought it was out of bounds so you have jumped to a bad conclusion.

These are the things I do choose to call them. As a jedi I want to ask you why you dont? Seems weird to me. I also never said movies actually happened. But the movies do show powers I think exist and according to my religion why would I not call them force powers?

Hope I have fulfilled MY responsibility in your eyes! :-)

Steamboat, no I dont think so. Energy healing is a secular term. As a jedi I want to use the terms of my chosen religion.

So telepathy is mind to mind communication right? So we see luke and leia do this in the second movie. What would it be called though?

Then force healing.

Then we see Luke do astral projection in the last movie. Not sure what this is called either?

Then force ghosts and force lightening I think!

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30 Nov 2019 04:13 #346473 by steamboat28
Youre free to use whatever terms you'd like; that doesn't mean they're accurate. Reiki, for example, is a specific modality that is not Force healing, because Force healing is Force healing.

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30 Nov 2019 14:27 #346476 by Alethea Thompson
Is there even a Force Healing methodology though? Can we really discuss Force Healing as a thing all to itself? Seems more like a cat hall phrase (I mean “The Force” was literally designed by Lucas TO be a catchall so you think on whether or not God exists)...

But seriously, what classified as Force Healing if we’ve never developed our own Jediism Force Healing tradition (not that it wasn’t talked about for ages, I know one person that was trying to learn all manner of Energy Healing traditions so she could develop one unique to the Jedi...she got so wrapped up in her training she never revisited the idea though).

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30 Nov 2019 15:36 #346477 by
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steamboat28 wrote:

Fyxe wrote: Reike [sic], or laying on hands or energy healing is actually just force healing.

Spirits and astral guides are really just Force Ghosts.

Ascension is really the power over death and life, breaking reincarnation cycles.

Prophetic dreams and premonitions are really just Force Vision.

The list goes on and I want to grow it! I think miracles could be in here, Angel's, past lives, great strength like at a car crash. These are real life examples of the greater than life myths of humanity.

What else do you guys think?


Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Force Healing is just another form of energy healing? That Force Vision is really just dreams and premonitions? We categorize things by specificity.

To add to your discussion, however, here are a list of things that I believe I have witnessed, purely anecdotally, without any evidence with which to convince others:
  • Telepathy
  • Energy healing and rebalancing
  • Astral projection
  • The existence of spirits
  • Magick, or the use of the will to influence the environment

Does this help?

I'm in the same boat I have seen these things in denim but not trying to convince others have a

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30 Nov 2019 18:04 #346481 by OB1Shinobi
I have to point out that these are not “force powers as we know them”
They are force powers as you believe them to be.

People are complicated.
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30 Nov 2019 19:15 #346482 by
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Great questions and comments. So there seems to be a focus on healing so let's talk about that.

As modern day jeddist we have borrowed from lots of other places to create this worldview right? So star wars is a base but lower than that is buddhism and Hinduism and meditation and the idea of service. Some are Christian as well. And at a most basic core all jedi believe in the force right? A weird metaphysical energy field that has some connection to life itself. (Either creates it or is created by it.)

But its energy right? And it is what jedi call the divine, no matter whether we disagree if it have a consciousness or a will or not.

So as divine energy it must also be the source of supernatural or metaphysical or miracle or prayers based healing from the jedi standpoint.

So if all of that is true then it must also be reasonable for a jedi to take any known form of energy healing, or all forms or parts of many and make them their own and call that force healing right?

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30 Nov 2019 19:40 #346484 by steamboat28
Ignoring that you can't just steal ideas and practices and just relabel them, energetic healing isn't something you just whip up in a few minutes like a PB&J. It takes extensive understanding of the subtle body, movements of energy, and the constants of many forms.

Some of us have done this for twenty years and the idea that you can just come along and slap a new name on something you don't understand is as insulting as it is laughable.
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30 Nov 2019 19:44 #346485 by Amaya

Fyxe wrote: Great questions and comments. So there seems to be a focus on healing so let's talk about that.

As modern day jeddist we have borrowed from lots of other places to create this worldview right?

Right

So star wars is a base but lower than that is buddhism and Hinduism and meditation and the idea of service. Some are Christian as well.

No
Your making an assumption


And at a most basic core all jedi believe in the force right? A weird metaphysical energy field that has some connection to life itself. (Either creates it or is created by it.)

Is that your personal belief?


But its energy right? And it is what jedi call the divine, no matter whether we disagree if it have a consciousness or a will or not.

No I as a Jedi don't call it the divine


So as divine energy it must also be the source of supernatural or metaphysical or miracle or prayers based healing from the jedi standpoint.

No why do you assume this


So if all of that is true then it must also be reasonable for a jedi to take any known form of energy healing, or all forms or parts of many and make them their own and call that force healing right?


No not in my opinion

Everything is belief

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30 Nov 2019 20:00 #346487 by
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Ok...

Well sorta harsh but let's go with it. Isnt every aspect of modern day jediist all just "stolen" practices and ideas? I mean even the name jediist is used so we dont get in trouble for using the name jedi, stolen as well. (Stolen is a harsh word)

I am taking the reiki classes next year and have got ahold of a teacher who tells me that o shall be certified in 3 days if I like and will have the full power available to me after "atunement". So about 20 years, how does that make it better?

Elizabeth, do you believe in the force or not?

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30 Nov 2019 20:04 #346488 by steamboat28
because reiki is a pyramid scheme
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