Freemason Jedis

From what I know of the Jedi Holocron it is... meh...

There are good things in it but I certainly don't use it as a resource. It is lots of people's thoughts on particular subjects. It is massive and contains many hundreds of posts by various people but quantity by no means at all equals quality

Freemasons use traditionally a bible, however, since the brotherhood is worldwide... and the meaning is behind a faith... any book of worship would do. The Qur'an, the Bible, Book of Mormons, etc. All of these relate to a greater power.

I would imagine that as long as you brought the book and explained it was your faith, it would be accepted. Though, it would be interesting to petition the Grand Lodge to open a Jediist Lodge. If you would like, I will write an email to my local Worshipful Master to see what he says.

Zanthan Storm wrote: Freemasons use traditionally a bible, however, since the brotherhood is worldwide... and the meaning is behind a faith... any book of worship would do. The Qur'an, the Bible, Book of Mormons, etc. All of these relate to a greater power.

I would imagine that as long as you brought the book and explained it was your faith, it would be accepted. Though, it would be interesting to petition the Grand Lodge to open a Jediist Lodge. If you would like, I will write an email to my local Worshipful Master to see what he says.

OK that would be great! If you could confirm they accept a book like that I would appreciate it too.

Akkarin wrote: From what I know of the Jedi Holocron it is... meh...

There are good things in it but I certainly don't use it as a resource. It is lots of people's thoughts on particular subjects. It is massive and contains many hundreds of posts by various people but quantity by no means at all equals quality

I recall seeing a book by TOTJO but I forget what it's called. I stumbled across it when I was looking for a definition of jediism. I think it's just an ebook online out there free but I haven't gotten around to reading it yet...

EDIT: The book was called The Way of Jediism by John Henry Phelan, Mark Barwell, Hans Thomas Finch

So can a Pantheist be a freemason? And if so, what book do they swear in on?

That is a good question. Normally, only a belief in deity is needed to fulfill the spiritual requirement. I'd have to ask. Good question.

Also....According to my local Worshipful Master, normally a lodge has a base of people ( christians... muslims.... etc) and the common book is what they look. It looks like Jediists may have to form a lodge of their own. Ill shoot off an email to the grand lodge and see what they say.

I am a Third Degree Master Mason here in Tennessee. So, to whoever else is here, you are not alone! lol!

Jabi Musah wrote: So can a Pantheist be a freemason? And if so, what book do they swear in on?

There are the Hindu Vedas?

Br. John wrote: Jedi don't need books to take an oath.

No, they don't, but that's not the point. The Masonic rituals require the presence of whatever the petitioner considers to be holy writ, be it the Bible, or the Qur'an or the Vedas, or the Bhagavad Gita, Jedi Holocron, etc. There must be a physical representation of it, for ritualistic purposes which I shall not go into.

As to which holy book that is, it need not be the one used most by the Lodge. It would probably feel awkward to ask to use the Jedi Holocron if you know that everyone else in the Lodge probably used the Bible for their own Initiations. So in that sense, having a separate Lodge for Jedi would be somewhat nice. But it is completely within your rights as the petitioner of any chartered Lodge to require your own holy book to be used for your Initiations.

Many Masons don't know that, surprisingly, so if you ask two different Masonic sources for that kind of information you may get different answers. But what I have provided here is the true answer. At any rate, discussing religion or politics in the Lodge room is forbidden, so it's not like you'd find yourself trying to discuss the Force with people who would just look at you weird.

All that is required of you is that you be a man, free (not a slave or indentured servant, although that's not really an issue any more), of legal adult age, and not atheist. If you believe in anything that could be construed as a higher power or as God, that works.

Or should work, anyway. However, due to recent unfortunate events within U.S. Masonry, I will provide here the caveat that it depends on what state you live in, as to how accepting they are of pagans, Jedi, etc.

Namely, I know for a fact that the entire state of Florida is not accepting of pagans, Gnostics, or agnostics. I'm assuming that probably includes Jedi. And some further info . Notice the picture of the Grand Master who made the ruling, and how contentious he looks. No surprises there. Who knows, if he were to smile, it might crack his face, and then where would we be?

I am good friends with a Mason...

The Grand Lodge, which I see pretty dang often, lol, has the letters:

A.F. and A.M.

Which Im told means "Ancient Free and Accepted Masons"...

Which was explained to me that the "Ancient Free" means never having been slaves in the persons lineage...

So, basically, no black men...

But that black men have their own "club" called: "Prince Hall"...

I never joined, any group, if it excluded others...

If all were accepted, but only had to ask, I might have considered it...