This is incontrovertible proof that God is evil. God does not live by his own go

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28 Nov 2016 16:55 #266481 by

Gisteron wrote:

Greatest-I-am wrote:

Gisteron wrote: ...


Seems you do not believe much of the bible. This is good.

Well, you didn't say that the biblical God was evil. Your conclusion was that an actual god (provided it exists) would be. It's not an expressed premise of your case that the Bible represents any bit of that being, or that it could.

But those who do, are stuck with an evil genocidal God.

No, you aren't. Whether there is a god and whether it is evil or genocidal does not depend on what anybody believes on the matter... Unless of course you are talking about the biblical character as opposed to an actual god that either did or does exist, but you didn't specify that and so by default I'd assume you mean the latter. On that note, even if you are talking about the biblical character it is still wholly irrelevant whether we believe that the book is an accurate descriptor of something real. We can discuss characters within narratives independent of whether they have real world counterparts or whether those counterparts have anything in common with them.


See, this is what happens if you start with your conclusions and then completely skip the premises. The extent to which your argument can be addressed, it falls apart.


I could have done all you say but as I see it, God, either real or imaginary, is still evil, so my all encompassing "God" in the O.P., is accurate either way.

I did have Yahweh in mind more than the other Gods, real or imaginary to all who have faith in God, and all the Gods, as unofficial purveyors of social manipulation and control, are all evil to me.

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28 Nov 2016 16:57 #266484 by

Manu wrote:

Greatest-I-am wrote:

Manu wrote:

Greatest-I-am wrote:

Manu wrote: If by "God" you mean the Abrahamic God, then you should be aware that good and evil are defined by Him, that is, good is his will, evil is anything else.

Which makes anything He does inherently good. He is above the Law.


So you are thinking that genocide is good then. Right?

More direct to your answer.
Would you tolerate our human judges breaking the laws they write?

If not why would you give a God the pass to do so?

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Because there is nothing I can do about it. If God is evil then he is evil. Nothing I can do about it.


Yes there is.

You can judge him so and pass on your good judgement to those who think otherwise and adore genocide when done by their God.

For evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing.

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So is that why you are here? Shouldn't you be visiting a Christian group instead?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnPL5OXSBNE

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28 Nov 2016 17:03 #266486 by

JamesSand wrote:
So I've agreed God is Evil, but i'm still going to apply the teachings of the Bible?

Is the lord correcting me? am I the Lord?


Is that bible quote not a wise saying? If so, you should not care about the source of it.

To your last.
In the way Gnostic Christians think, yes you are the Lord and your own master.

That was the good news that most ignore in the words the scribes put in Jesus' mouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

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28 Nov 2016 17:18 #266490 by JamesSand
Right, I'd forgotten this was a recruiting drive for your club.

Where do I sign?

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28 Nov 2016 17:21 #266491 by OB1Shinobi
are you sure youre ready to become a domino?
its a big responsibility, you should pray about it
to yourself, i think

People are complicated.

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28 Nov 2016 17:29 #266492 by Gisteron

Greatest-I-am wrote: I could have done all you say but as I see it, God, either real or imaginary, is still evil, so my all encompassing "God" in the O.P., is accurate either way.

I did have Yahweh in mind more than the other Gods, real or imaginary to all who have faith in God, and all the Gods, as unofficial purveyors of social manipulation and control, are all evil to me.

Oh, so you mean it doesn't matter whether a god follows the golden rule? Any gods are evil, no matter what? Then why is there any need to prove it? And how is your relying on the golden rule at all helpful? Shifting the goal post again, are we? :)

Better to leave questions unanswered than answers unquestioned

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28 Nov 2016 17:35 - 28 Nov 2016 17:37 #266495 by Gisteron

Manu wrote: So is that why you are here? Shouldn't you be visiting a Christian group instead?

*chuckle*
You'd be surprised how many places GIa thinks this needs to be discussed. It's almost like he has an infinite supply of time and disposable Email addresses.


As of the time of writing, this is half the list of all the places where duplicates of this thread exist, with a second half following in the next post because apparently there is a limit on how many references one may make in one single post on TOTJO, but the number of places GIa started this at exceeds that number, haha!
  • Able2Know , a free discussion platform
  • WrongPlanet , a community for people and especially parents struggling with ASDs, ADHD, PDDs and other mental disorders
  • TWCenter , a Total War gaming community
  • PoliticalHotwire , a discussion forum for matters of politics
  • Youth Debates , a "political and non-political" discussion platform

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28 Nov 2016 17:35 #266496 by

JamesSand wrote: Right, I'd forgotten this was a recruiting drive for your club.

Where do I sign?


On your heart.

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28 Nov 2016 17:35 #266497 by Gisteron
  • Atheist Forums , a place for theists and atheists to discuss "all manner of topics"
  • LiveLeak Forums , the forums hosted by an alternative media outlet
  • DavidIcke.com Forums , the infamous David Icke's site forums
  • BlueLight , a self-help and support community for people struggling from consequences of drug abuse
  • Think Atheist , an online atheist community (the thread here was creating during my researching for this post)

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28 Nov 2016 17:38 #266498 by

OB1Shinobi wrote: are you sure youre ready to become a domino?
its a big responsibility, you should pray about it
to yourself, i think


Why do you think so lowly of yourself to think you have no impact on the earth or those who even read what you say?

Keep that poor thinking for yourself if you like but do not try to put me in your lowly mind set.

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