This is incontrovertible proof that God is evil. God does not live by his own go

Gisteron wrote: [ The only time I will intervene is if it is somebody I personally care little enough for that I'd rather they think as I do than think for themselves. Next time you want to predict how I would think or act, get to know me first.

So you are a Jedi that will only fight for those you know.

And here I thought that Jedi s were concerned with the whole universe.

Oh well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MNANgFCYpk

And it is not what I would call ideal.

Regards
DL

Good that you think a backhanded criticism and insult to freedom of speech and association is not a waste of time.

Quite the Jedi your are.

I rarely consider criticism, direct or backhanded, to be a waste of time:)


We have not even begun to discuss my views on freedom of speech and association, but even then - no one insulted your freedom of speech or association, your use of it was just brought to light. Don't play the victim, it's unbecoming.



Well you've already talked me out of being a Christian, so I guess it's only fair you persuade me how I've failed as a Jedi.

*sigh*

I read the Bible once, or twice. There are several times where Jesus himself (according to the Bible) says something that could be considered an instruction of emulation.

John 13:12-15
So when He had washed their feet, and taken His garments and reclined at the table again, He said to them, "Do you know what I have done to you? "You call Me Teacher and Lord; and you are right, for so I am. "If I then, the Lord and the Teacher, washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet.”

John 13:34
"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.”

John 15:9-11
"Just as the Father has loved Me, I have also loved you; abide in My love. "If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love; just as I have kept My Father's commandments and abide in His love. "These things I have spoken to you so that My joy may be in you, and that your joy may be made full.”

These three times are repeated by other disciples as they tell the story of Jesus and are supposed to be the word of Jesus himself. But they are not instructions of emulation. They are examples of how Jesus wanted his disciples to behave as he was supposedly speaking to them at the time.

The other books of the New Testament are mostly comprised of letters of the Disciples to others and not noted as being the word of God or Jesus.

Most of the Old Testament try’s to teach us not to emulate but to follow the law as we are not capable of understanding the will or nature of God. From the New Testament...

Hebrews 10:24-30 (NIV)
24 And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, 25 not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay, “and again, “The Lord will judge his people.”


When you take out the history of the Hebrews from the Bible then the whole thing becomes a teaching guide that was eventually written from the stories compiled from parts of the Torah and the Disciples of Jesus. Part of that teaching is so that mankind understands that being made in God’s image means that we have the ability to choose. There is a law in which mankind is supposed to follow to live in accordance with God’s wishes and salvation of the soul is a choice made by the individual and can only come through love for the creator, the gifts given and the sacrifice that was made for our behalf. Just as a parent allows their children to go and make mistakes, so does the Hebrew God that is mentioned in the Bible.

But, that’s just my understanding of it.

Greatest-I-am wrote:

Gisteron wrote: The only time I will intervene is if it is somebody I personally care little enough for that I'd rather they think as I do than think for themselves. Next time you want to predict how I would think or act, get to know me first.

So you are a Jedi that will only fight for those you know.

Wrong. Lying yet again.

And here I thought that Jedi s were concerned with the whole universe.

Remember what I said about getting to know me first? I don't recall telling you I was a Jedi nor what I thought a Jedi should be. But thanks once again for trying to educate people on things they understand and care far more about than you do.

Good that you think a backhanded criticism and insult to freedom of speech and association is not a waste of time.

That's funny, I could swear I was defending freedom of speech and association despite your accusation that I wouldn't. And then you just ignored my response to your accusation and are now accusing others of thinking the way you think I do. Do you have not a drop of honesty within you at all?

"It's almost like he has an infinite supply of time and disposable" [sic]

What irony when I read this from one who has just wasted his time checking out where I go.

Looking things up and researching is sort of my job. Yours is being wrong on as much of the internet as you can rush to reach.

Wescli Wardest wrote: Part of that teaching is so that mankind understands that being made in God’s image means that we have the ability to choose.

i always took it as something similar - "let us make man in our image" to me was a way of saying beings who can think about the world - who can understand it in ordered, relational pieces, rather than being stuck at only the level of immediate experience or "instinct"

and the "eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good an evil" i personally take to mean "developing the ability to compare and make judgments, especially value judgments"

i think the two ideas are related - "in the image of the gods"/beings capable of thinking about things abstractly and "knowledge of good and evil" meaning "ability to compare, contrast, and determine value"

and that these are what separate us from the rest of the animal kingdom, at least from the view of ancient people

and it sets the stage for the NT/Jesus determination of "love" as the highest social virtue

which its arguable that love could very well BE the highest or "best" virtue for those who can actually pull it off (depending on how we define "best"

i dont know if thats useful to anyone but its as useful as anything else being said here lol so i thought id share

+1 for Jesus!

Greatest-I-am wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MNANgFCYpk

aw, i love music! let me return the favor of a lovely, old-timey little diddy about making new friends

Be nice Kyrin, you'll scare him off.


I enjoy the distraction while I'm at work.

I won't go so for as to say it's more interesting than looking at spreadsheets, but it gives my eyes a break.

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:

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I see your 1997 Special Edition colour-"corrected" meme and raise you one de-corrected:

I humbly suggest further attempts by our OP writer be redirected to Hannigan.

Wescli Wardest wrote: Part of that teaching is so that mankind understands that being made in God’s image means that we have the ability to choose. There is a law in which mankind is supposed to follow to live in accordance with God’s wishes and salvation of the soul is a choice made by the individual and can only come through love for the creator, the gifts given and the sacrifice that was made for our behalf. Just as a parent allows their children to go and make mistakes, so does the Hebrew God that is mentioned in the Bible.

But, that’s just my understanding of it.

Being made in Yahweh's image would make us all genocidal son murderers.

Why would anyone want to follow such a vile demiurge?

https://vimeo.com/7038401

Regards
DL

Gisteron

Wrong.

:ohmy:

Regards
DL

Greatest-I-am wrote: This is incontrovertible proof that God is evil. God does not live by his own golden rule.

God kills when he could just as easily cure. This is irrefutable.

This is a clear violation of the golden rule. The golden rule as articulated by Jesus.

God then is clearly evil.

Do you agree with Jesus that anyone who breaks the golden rule is evil


The more I study the more I find out that rule...the golden rule isn't solely "his" . many of the ideas in the"wordof god" are not even "his" words. The bible...a book of books...other peoples ideas. Gathered. Compiled in 1611. Most ideas are great. Golden rule, great! Sides. I choose no side intentionally, I choose my side. I can make my side what ever. To say that " god" doesn't play by the rules is to say that god knows ...our ...rules. If u put you heart n faith in this I say go!.you can find happyness and truth anywhere regardless who's preaching. To say gods not right I don't think is fair. Our own ideas come from ...others and THEIR actions and interpretations of their faith and practice. In this light...yea " god" doesn't follow the rules, mainly because we are human and rarley follow rules. (Our nature I think) any how , in my own personal study and practice I follow my own music. I'm seldom worried about.... Around me, live life times worried about what others did and how they did it and if I was lackingnwhy wasn't I the one god tsalks to and so on. The proof... Is to me e evidence of others actions. Their interpretations. The kings and warriors of days old...aka Joseph king David the Israelites... Let's face it those guys were beasts for their cause. To say gods not dead or he's a back stabbing weasel to me... Is to speak on ones relationship with.
In my study I have found ...
Lots of religious groups say one thing , mean a difrent thing.
Love but hate.
Seek but don't look.
Not my cup of tea.
I will support any heart who seeks any out, I'm a minister here too...I'm Jedi I say try and if u don't like it... If u see more that what they are saying.... Use your , YOUR own judgment. No fair finding out your diety doesn't like the color red and all you have is teams with little red bjirds. No disrespect intended to any one who cheers for teams with red birds, just a crude example! Please feel free to cheer for whom ever, my beer n shots are cold, the best team I think! Jk

Greatest-I-am wrote: Gisteron

Wrong.

Do you have an objection to my pointing out your lying about the very things you quote or what exactly do you feel is inaccurately representing the actual state of affairs?

carlos.martinez3 wrote: [

https://ca.video.search.yahoo.com/search/video;_ylt=A2KLqIoSBT9YWXAAH70WFQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTBncGdyMzQ0BHNlYwNzZWFyY2gEdnRpZAM-;_ylc=X1MDMjExNDcyMTA0NgRfcgMyBGJjawNhMWtoNHRsYzFwOW43JTI2YiUzRDMlMjZzJTNEbTIEZnIDbWNhZmVlBGdwcmlkA0RCVWVPUEVMUV82ZThWY0tDcC5PaEEEbXRlc3RpZANudWxsBG5fcnNsdAM2MARuX3N1Z2cDMARvcmlnaW4DY2EudmlkZW8uc2VhcmNoLnlhaG9vLmNvbQRwb3MDMARwcXN0cgMEcHFzdHJsAwRxc3RybAMyOQRxdWVyeQNyb2xsaW5nIHN0b25lcyBiZXR3ZWVuIGEgcm9jawR0X3N0bXADMTQ4MDUyNTExMwR2dGVzdGlkA251bGw-?gprid=DBUeOPELQ_6e8VcKCp.OhA&pvid=LMCVoTk4LjGg0iTtWBym5wLPNzYuNgAAAACbK6sV&p=rolling+stones+between+a+rock&ei=UTF-8&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Av%2Cm%3Asa&fr=mcafee#id=1&vid=c5404d780261e19cb7405f01b128e1e1&action=view

Regards
DL

The fields of Eden
Are full of trash
And if we beg and we borrow and steal
We'll never get it back
People are hungry
They crowd around
And the city gets bigger as the country comes begging to town

Stuck between a rock
And a hard place
Between a rock and a hard place



Read more: Rolling Stones - Rock And A Hard Place Lyrics
... Great song. ..world filled with them .

To me if u see a want or need fill it . I do. I'm like that , I have learned from greater than I. I have had to find my own examples of a love of things I had been lacking , mainly in character and mental being. Most, during a session or two of good old fashion mindfulness can catch obvious ... Misses. I'm sure that's not the right term. But those things that just don't add up. Most of those to me are mans muddle. His interpretation of things on his path.
Let me be the first to publicly say I have had the few same questions you have had. I encourage you friend to keep seeking. My inbox is open any time. If you truly want to ....break bread feel free to hit me up, I'm always down to pull in an extra chair or two with some hot beverage

Greatest-I-am wrote:

Wescli Wardest wrote: Part of that teaching is so that mankind understands that being made in God’s image means that we have the ability to choose. There is a law in which mankind is supposed to follow to live in accordance with God’s wishes and salvation of the soul is a choice made by the individual and can only come through love for the creator, the gifts given and the sacrifice that was made for our behalf. Just as a parent allows their children to go and make mistakes, so does the Hebrew God that is mentioned in the Bible.

But, that’s just my understanding of it.

Being made in Yahweh's image would make us all genocidal son murderers.

Why would anyone want to follow such a vile demiurge?

https://vimeo.com/7038401

Regards
DL

I am assuming that you are referring to the final plague set upon the Egyptians by the reference to “son murderers”?

Simo Häyhä has over five hundred confirmed kills to his name in less than one hundred days as a sniper. He was considered to be the deadliest sniper ever. He is also from Finland. So… By that same logic, I would assume you to believe that the Finish people are the most blood thirsty killers in existence.

Perhaps reading, study and trying to understand not only the history of the story but the circumstances, cultures and players involved would shed a more accurate light then reading a sentence and jumping to conclusions.

And of course you could be referring to the actions of those in the past that have claimed the title Christian. And like with all other things I would say that the actions of the individual do not represent the philosophies, ideologies or beliefs or a religion. Just as the actions of individuals do not represent the moral structure of a social or justice system.

i would be very surprised to find out that youre interested in -or capable of- genuine exploration of the ideas relevant to the subject matter
but because i found this interesting and because i found it as a consequence of these threads youve been trolling, and because youve got an affinity with posting youtube videos instead of explaining yourself, i submit this video, "the evolution of god" which explains why god in the bible sometimes says "go eff them up" and why some other times he says "love your neighbor"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxMVo3Yf448

That's my professor! Thanks for that! One of many lol