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11 Jun 2016 16:21 #244533 by
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wutmEjdbedE&list=PLCA4298A0D7F18B04&index=13

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11 Jun 2016 16:34 #244538 by OB1Shinobi
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Streen wrote: Since I wrote my last post on this topic (and after reading some of the responses), I have to admit to being slightly unsure of, well, everything. Not just because of what I've read but because of what I've experienced.

My conclusion is simple. "All the answers fall short of the truth."


have you really tested all of the answers?

i dont dispute that conclusion but i am curious at the process that brought you to it

from here it looks like you were introduced to ideas that you hadnt considered, and these ideas made you realize that what you thought was true, may not actually be as true as you thought it was, and now you are saying "since the truth that i want to be true, might not be true, i have to conclude that we cant know the truth"

People are complicated.
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12 Jun 2016 05:54 #244604 by
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MartaLina wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wutmEjdbedE&list=PLCA4298A0D7F18B04&index=13


Interestingly enough, I still listen to Christian radio, sometimes, for a bit of a positive, uplifting spirit for my day. Not to derail the discussion, but my range of music I listen to is very wide. :)

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12 Jun 2016 06:58 #244607 by
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I do, i love Gospel , i am just not into the Religion anymore :)

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12 Jun 2016 13:48 #244627 by
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Because, in my opinion, the Bible is just a book. Paper. It is a fictional story about a charismatic Arab written by some desert dwelling scribes who were bored. It has just as much relevance today as Harry Potter, or oliver Twist. Just a book.

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12 Jun 2016 13:50 #244628 by
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Because I was taught as a child that I should not worship middle men and seek out my own path and beliefs on my own time.

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12 Jun 2016 14:02 - 12 Jun 2016 15:51 #244629 by Proteus
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Spending time with one religion, to me, is like listening to one song on a whole album. It might be a popular single on the radio. But there are also other songs on the album just as good if not even better for all their respective reasons. This one has its meaning in the theme of the album. But the others are not going to be any less relevant or worth listening to than that one. But the real point is appreciating the entire album as a complete work of art, not just one song. Why was the album put together? What is behind its theme? What stage in life were the artists at while writing it and how did that influence it? ;)

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12 Jun 2016 15:50 #244643 by
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Proteus wrote: ....((snip)).... But the real point is appreciating the entire album as a complete work of art, not just one song. Why was the album put together? What is behind its theme? What stage in life were the artists at while writing it and how did that influence it? ;)


I accept the inherent flaws of analogy and I try not to get hung up on focusing on the story, but look for the meaning.

The best I can get in stepping behind this particular curtain is a pretty painting of a dark night sky sans stars or other external lighting.

The best of humanity, as seen in the art, music and architecture - of populaces under the grip these "other songs" - has more to do with humanity transcending the particular track and less to do with the song.

The problem with the analogy of harmony between songs on the album is in the details of the discordant lyrics on the other tracks.

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12 Jun 2016 19:41 - 12 Jun 2016 19:44 #244670 by OB1Shinobi
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Silas Mercury wrote: Because, in my opinion, the Bible is just a book. Paper. It is a fictional story about a charismatic Arab written by some desert dwelling scribes who were bored. It has just as much relevance today as Harry Potter, or oliver Twist. Just a book.


how much of the bible have you actually read, yourself, personally?

also, is it possible that the reason that stories such as harry potter and oliver twist are so enduringly popular, is because they do actually have relevance today?

People are complicated.
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25 Aug 2016 05:14 - 25 Aug 2016 05:16 #253690 by JamesSand
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Jorah Mormont wrote: ...here I stand



For what it is worth -
I am Christian.

I'm not inclined to detail what that means to me, (suffice to say, I don't necessarily agree with a lot of other Christians, but given the number of "Christian" churches, most of them don't agree with each other either)


I have yet to find anything in my identity as a Christian that conflicts with any of my other identities.
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