who is this man?

At first I thought you might be here to share and learn with everyone else. It is starting to look like you are only trying to spread the Muslim religion and denounce Christianity.
I could be wrong, but that is the impression I am getting.

I am a patient person, but I will not permit belittling others faith or beliefs.

I love your passion for the Muslim religion and your knowledge is refreshing. Thank you for sharing what you have. It is really nice to have someone around that is better versed than I am.

This goes out to everyone; we are not here to decide whose religion is better. We are not here to look for holes in another’s beliefs. And we are not here to attack others or their beliefs.

This goes out to everyone; we are not here to decide whose religion is better.

Indeed. It's not a matter of decision. Jediism is superior by design.

The Prophets of the Old Testament such as Abraham, Noah and Jonah never preached that God is part of a Trinity, and did not believe in Jesus as their saviour.

Heretics who refused to prostrate themselves before the only true trinity: Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. :whistle:

of the big three (Judaism,Christianity,Islam) Islam is the youngest by about 500 years...and,thanks to extremists, the most violent and troublesome of the new era....which is unfortunate...of course all three of them have been problem children at some point in history....corrupting a good message with violence in an effort to "convert" the "non believers"...what gets lost in the mix is the message( be a good person, kind to others,etc)...as long as the message is delivered does it really matter how it got delivered?

yasoooo wrote: I'm not sure why so many people make an issue about DESERT TRIBAL PRACTICES in the 6th century. Muhammad did nothing out of the norm for his society.

It might have been the culture, and it still might be in some areas, but for someone who is claiming to be a prophet of God? Its physical and psychological abuse. Therefore for a self-proclaimed (arent they all) prophet of God... not a good look IMO.

A news article just crossed my bow which is related;

"AN EIGHT-YEAR-OLD girl in Yemen has died of internal injuries on the first night of her marriage to a man more than five times her age.

The girl, Rawan, suffered a tear to her genitals and severe bleeding and activists have called on police to arrest the "beastly groom" and the girl's family. They argue that the marriage should have never happened in the first place. Those protesting the girl's death hope the incident shines the spotlight on the practice of very young girls getting married in Yemen."

Rawan is pictured on the left in pink, and her 'husband' behind her.

Article Link

I really leave that up to the individual and their personal beliefs which will generate from their experiences and what they have learnt.

And the reason I say that is there are several philosophical view pints which could justify or rationalize Jesus’ status one way or the other. IE: We are all part of the divine. If you are a part of it you can’t be separated from it therefore are it. That said, by the same logic Muhammad is God.

What I don’t think people realize is that when someone from another religion comes and points out the “errors” or confusion inherent in their beliefs, it is seen as an assault and generally not received well. I am not Christian or Islam or Druid or Satanist or Atheist or any of that… I am a Jedi and so take little offence. But others will.

The best way to win over people’s hearts and minds is to lead by example. I will not tell you the flaws and inconsistencies I have found in Islam, I will be a Jedi and we can discuss the pros of an idea. Or it’s own cons. I have no desire to tell people they are confused in their beliefs (I am not that arrogant to think I know best) or convince them otherwise.

For the record, some Christian denominations view Jesus as the Son of God and separate. The Catholic church claims the divinity of the three in one trinity. Applying what you believe to the correct denomination will give your argument more credibility then making broad generalizations.

What I don’t think people realize is that when someone from another religion comes and points out the “errors” or confusion inherent in their beliefs, it is seen as an assault and generally not received well.

"Few people have the wisdom to prefer the criticism that would do them good, to the praise that deceives them."
Francois de La Rochefoucauld

"Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfils the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things."
Winston Churchill


Also there is nothing un-jedi about criticism.

Conflict: To know when to fight.

A Jedi knows the conflicting nature of the Force but they also know its peace and serenity. A Jedi never blindly enters conflict and always does so for the greater good.

Pure Motive: To act with motive and purpose.

Without a sound motive and purpose, action has no meaning, no destination and lacks a foundation. A Jedi moves with the Force, trusts in its ways. A Jedi’s actions are firmly based upon a deep motivation to be as their path dictates.

Also, wescli, this is the faiths forum, the place to discuss faiths that aren't Jediism.

The problem here isn't criticism, it's criticism by a muslim of christianity on a jedi forum. Provided it is ,as you claim, criticism. It is in my eyes, an empty act: no-one really seems apt or interested in engaging in a discussion...

Yasoooo you'd be much better off putting this on a christian or religious studies website....

Exactly!

For the greater good.

I would love to discuss Islam and learn more about it from one who practices it. I’m not particularly interested in a Christian’s view of Islam anymore than I am of an Islam view of Christianity.

Criticism is not a bad thing. I am pointing out that it may very well be taken offense to by some. I find criticism to be very constructive when it is analyzed for what it is and acted upon.

Think of the benefit we would all gain if we focused on sharing what we believed and not what we perceive of others. That could be pretty awesome.

I'm not sure you can criticise any disbeliever of Islam, really. After all, according to your scripture its Allah himself who 'sealed their hearing and their hearts' (Quran 2:6-7), made them deaf (2:25) and covered their hearts (18:57). I agree that the Christian opinion on Jesus (pre-supposing he ever walked the earth in the first place) stands on shaky ground but its not that Islam makes a better case in the slightest, really. Seriously, if you criticize a doctrine, better point out what's wrong about what it says and not how it isn't consistent with a different one.

I apologize if I'm wrong and maybe indeed this is just me, but...

To me it seems that this gentleman is not interested in discussion or exchange for he has not adressed a word anyone else said but instead keeps preaching to the boards with no intent of conversation or at least conversion. It seems to be of no relevance to him wether his posts are even read, considered, accepted or contradicted or for that matter responded to in the first place.

On a side note, I found the text of his latest post at 'The Religion of Islam' and the post before that at 'One Reason' , both in exactly the same form as presented here, suggesting that yasoooo is not the author of the text and not honest enough to cite his sources. I cannot go so far as to accuse him of being a bot, but the evidence suggests not only that he is uninterested in intellectual theological exchange on the topic, but that he is probably not versed enough in it to provide arguemnts of his own for the cause he is representing. This is detrimental to our motivation to be responding in the first place and the lack of response to our posts from yasoooo is but testifying for his lack of expectation or interest in our answers as well.

Since this is a basis on which no interesting conversation can emerge I suggest this topic be locked or denied the user 'yasoooo'. Should he start a new thread for the purpose of preaching, on his own or by the magic of copy'n'paste, I also suggest that the user be removed from the boards.

This post, too, I have found countless times with different nicknames (I didn't bother looking through all the google findings, but I found one with the very same nickname and an eni-something was banned on multiple forums giving the exact same text, too). I'm afraid you have a spammer on the boards.