Profiles - Gender

Connor L. wrote: The last color change was contentious. lol. I remember a lot of people being unhappy with the change.

Me too, although now I can't even remember what it used to be. :laugh:

I enjoy our color scheme

So as we have achieved nothing and I regret bringing this whole subject up in the first place... let's forget about this thread and go do something else (I'm going to).

Connor L. wrote: The last color change was contentious. lol. I remember a lot of people being unhappy with the change.

Yeah, I remember that too. I'm just stirring up trouble :laugh: I figure as long as we're going to be contentious, lets do it about something completely arbitrary in the big scheme of things.

Yea that one wasn't my doing. People always complain about the colours, but never the same ones.

Aino wrote: Even plain transphobia. I'm really disappointed that some peple call themselves Jedi and still fail to see why this issue matter so much to some of their brothers and sisters.

Just to address the transphobia comment.

Transphobia is very specific to acts of prejudice against transgender individuals. Discussions and misunderstandings surrounding gender and sex are not themselves transphobic unless someone were to say an individual's views should be dismissed because they were transgender.

Further transgender individuals, while more obviously affected by notions of sex and gender, are not exclusively affected by them. Non-transgender individuals have just as much right to discuss and disagree with notions of gender and sex. This may mean the individuals aren't being empathetic, but again that is distinct from outright transphobia.

Akkarin wrote:

Aino wrote: Even plain transphobia. I'm really disappointed that some peple call themselves Jedi and still fail to see why this issue matter so much to some of their brothers and sisters.

Just to address the transphobia comment.

Transphobia is very specific to acts of prejudice against transgender individuals. Discussions and misunderstandings surrounding gender and sex are not themselves transphobic unless someone were to say an individual's views should be dismissed because they were transgender.

Further transgender individuals, while more obviously affected by notions of sex and gender, are not exclusively affected by them. Non-transgender individuals have just as much right to discuss and disagree with notions of gender and sex. This may mean the individuals aren't being empathetic, but again that is distinct from outright transphobia.

I've had no problems with people disagreeing and arguing on this thread. Although there was a lot of lack of empathy, I believe many people here are genuinely trying to contribute to the discussion and even trying to learn new things. And even if they aren't, it's their right to express themselves.

But I still see problematic issues among the sea of goodwill. I'd like to address that on private if you don't mind, to not further extend the argument.

I just like to remind people that problematic is a word outside of social justice


Okay, well I clearly don't know how to put videos in posts.

Here's a link ....but the moment has sort of gone now...

JamesSand wrote: Okay, well I clearly don't know how to put videos in posts.

Don't use the [ video ] tags... just post the link.

JLSpinner wrote: Perhaps a poll vote would settle the debate without further harm done?

I would like to second that.