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Torrents, I mean...
Really, as Ren is our Librarian, he should be here speaking, lol...
I don't see anything wrong with this thread being used for this discussion...
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Typically, Internet access is asymmetrical, supporting greater download speeds than upload speeds, limiting the bandwidth of each download, and sometimes enforcing bandwidth caps and periods where systems are not accessible. This creates inefficiency when many people want to obtain the same set of files from a single source; the source must always be online and must have massive outbound bandwidth. The BitTorrent protocol addresses this by decentralizing the distribution, leveraging the ability of people to network "peer-to-peer", among themselves.
Each file to be distributed is divided into small information chunks called pieces. Downloading peers achieve rapid download speeds by requesting multiple pieces from different computers in the swarm. Once obtained, these pieces are usually immediately made available for download by others in the swarm. In this way, the burden on the network is spread among the downloaders, rather than concentrating at a central distribution hub or cluster. As long as all the pieces are available, peers (downloaders and uploaders) can come and go; no one peer needs to have all the chunks, or to even stay connected to the swarm in order for distribution to continue among the other peers.
As we are a singular unit I am not sure how adding ourselves to a swarm would help when most if not all information is already out there to be found via torrent. And, I would view it as an additional security risk. Just my opinion though... for what it is.
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Wescli Wardest wrote: As we are a singular unit I am not sure how adding ourselves to a swarm would help when most if not all information is already out there to be found via torrent. And, I would view it as an additional security risk. Just my opinion though... for what it is.
My train of thought was that while "we" are a single unit, we utilize separate machines. The IP requests the files be downloaded rather than streamed for very logical reasons, and my thinking was that a torrent would lighten the burden on the bandwidth of the TotJO server itself by dividing distribution among many members.
I don't necessarily see it as a greater security risk than the current model of operation--could you help me understand your reasoning in this regard?
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I do not use torrents for that reason alone. You don’t know who the source is.
Maybe I am a bit paranoid… could be. :blink:
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Perhaps this is the former-technological-professional in me speaking, but if you don't have protection on your machine against such threats, there is a very high likelihood that you shouldn't be online to begin with. A frequent scanning of the contents of the associated files would be plenty to ensure this not be a soooooper-dee-duper problem. You could also put out a simple request that no one but certain members seed the files; it would be nigh impossible to enforce, but most people here would agree to such terms, and a great many people refuse to seed anyhow, as it doesn't agree with their ISP's guidelines on how best to use bandwidth.Wescli Wardest wrote: Then, each person that was on could potentially spread something to every other member unknowingly.
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Because the material on the IP does exist out there in most formats and can be found to download from many sources already I would advise against the additional security risk at this moment seeing how we (TOTJO) have limited resources that could be better allocated in other directions currently.
Keep in mind that is just my opinion, and I do not set policy.
A year or so ago I was making a list of known, safe download sites for members that were having a problem with our downloads. Perhaps we could spend some time and continue researching additional rescores to distribute when needed?
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Part of the problem with that is that everything currently in the IP is copyrighted material, which means that with the constantly increasing push against "Internet piracy" (which is a wholly separate soapbox), those types of sites may or may not stay up very long.Wescli Wardest wrote: A year or so ago I was making a list of known, safe download sites for members that were having a problem with our downloads. Perhaps we could spend some time and continue researching additional rescores to distribute when needed?
The few ways around this that I, personally, see are:
- Keep things as they are
- Encourage off-site downloads (potentially unsafe)
- Seed a torrent (potentially hazardous)
- Offer "official" links to the material where it may be purchased (expensive for members, but allows potential affiliate revenue for the Temple itself)
- Redevelop the IP to include only original content (to be disseminated through ways 1 or 3) that refers to the current content via citation
- Some combination of the above
I honestly believe that, in order to further develop and evolve the Temple, #5 will be beneficial and necessary sooner rather than later, as well as providing a scholarly outlet for some of the Temple's teachers, but that some combination of those options will ultimately be the most helpful.
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