What Does Pain Teach Us?

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15 Mar 2013 21:27 #98023 by
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I think this is a good question. Although it would have possible different answers for different people.

Generally we can see pain as a learning experience such as touching a hot stove it teaches us that heat causes harm.

In another concept pain can cause us to see our limits such as when running and our muscles cramp up.

In another way pain can be a sign of growth as in body building. When one tears muscles and it heals creating larger muscles the pain is rejuvenation and growth.

Of course there are those who are in to BDSM and pain creates connection between the sadist and masochist.

Pain as a teacher is definitely an individualized experience for the person experiencing it.

If we look at Luke Skywalker during his training with Yoda. He was forced to face emotional pain as part of his growth as a Jedi.

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15 Mar 2013 22:46 #98046 by
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Rav Adam wrote: Of course there are those who are in to BDSM and pain creates connection between the sadist and masochist.


Actually BDSM is about control, where the pleasure someone gets is more from the fact that they are not in control (or perhaps are if they are dominating). There is often 'pain' or teasing' but that isn't what is 'enjoyed' as such... It is about the fact that the person cannot prevent it, they are helpless...

Just saying... :whistle:

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15 Mar 2013 23:08 #98051 by
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Akkarin wrote:

Rav Adam wrote: Of course there are those who are in to BDSM and pain creates connection between the sadist and masochist.


Actually BDSM is about control, where the pleasure someone gets is more from the fact that they are not in control (or perhaps are if they are dominating). There is often 'pain' or teasing' but that isn't what is 'enjoyed' as such... It is about the fact that the person cannot prevent it, they are helpless...

Just saying... :whistle:


Akkarin, in some aspect, i would agree. Much of BDSM is about Domminance and submission, on partner submitting to the authority of another. But the aspect of Sadomasochism.. does require that the sadist enjoys giving pain to a consenting partner... the consenting partner is many times a masochist or one who enjoys receiving pain.

while not all relationships that practice Dominance and submission practice sadomasochism it is also true that not all who practice Sadomasochism are in a Dominant/submissive relationship either.

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15 Mar 2013 23:14 #98052 by
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As someone who has chronic pain, to me pain lets me know I am alive (note I did not use the word suffer).
I have 2 children, and childbirth is pain, again it is about life, in this case giving life.

Like Master Jestor I have many tattoos, they caused pain of a different kind, I hadn't thought about it before but my addiction to them may be about a need to feel alive, being in control of my pain and my life.

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15 Mar 2013 23:15 #98053 by Angelus
Let's not digress too much from the topic merely for the sake of proving our knowledge of violent sexual practice s.

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15 Mar 2013 23:34 #98057 by
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Rav Adam wrote: Akkarin, in some aspect, i would agree. Much of BDSM is about Domminance and submission, on partner submitting to the authority of another. But the aspect of Sadomasochism.. does require that the sadist enjoys giving pain to a consenting partner... the consenting partner is many times a masochist or one who enjoys receiving pain.

while not all relationships that practice Dominance and submission practice sadomasochism it is also true that not all who practice Sadomasochism are in a Dominant/submissive relationship either.


True, you are correct

Angelus wrote: Let's not digress too much from the topic merely for the sake of proving our knowledge of violent sexual practice s.


I wouldn't say that it was done to 'prove' but more because I felt I was able to explain something... I generally don't ever have any reason to feel I need to prove anything :P

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15 Mar 2013 23:40 #98058 by Angelus
Blah blah blah ; P

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16 Mar 2013 00:21 #98064 by
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Akkarin wrote:

Rav Adam wrote: Of course there are those who are in to BDSM and pain creates connection between the sadist and masochist.


Actually BDSM is about control, where the pleasure someone gets is more from the fact that they are not in control (or perhaps are if they are dominating). There is often 'pain' or teasing' but that isn't what is 'enjoyed' as such... It is about the fact that the person cannot prevent it, they are helpless...

Just saying... :whistle:


Not trying to "reveal" anything.....but from my own...*eh hem*...experience. It is about the control, not so much the pain. Not a sadist or anything, just a preference. And the relationship is usually healthy, from my own experience. Hope I didn't sound perverted or anything. Just don't want people who like BDSM to get a bad rap.

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16 Mar 2013 01:31 #98075 by Ben
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Pain teaches us what we care about most.

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16 Mar 2013 02:15 #98079 by
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Sometimes pain is the only way to get the point across. This is the philosophy behind the application of the cane in Singapore and Malaysia, and all the birch trees that were sacrificed to maul children's asses in the good old days of the British Empire.

All joking aside, it's the pain of my girlfriend leaving me and my mom seeing me vomit my guts out early in the morning the other day that made me confront my alcoholism. And now I have my girl back. Ukrainians are the best... :)

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