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Help with Teaching
03 Mar 2013 08:07 #96470
by Adder
I see Jediism as incorporating all styles of being a Jedi, including what you call Jedi Realism. Therefore I consider Jediism to be the broadest and most inclusive term to define the path of being a Jedi, in whatever particular balance or arrangement the individual might prefer. Whilst what you call Jedi Realists to me sounds better defined as Jedi Pragmatists almost? The use of the title Jedi Realism sounds better to define a boundary between role playing and realism, and obviously Jediism is realism.
To the OP; If it was me I probably wouldn't advertise any of the sites in the content of the course, but perhaps add them in an associated resource link/paper. I'd look through all the sites and write up what you think constitutes a good common ground between them all and then give it to a few senior members who you trust or think might have good insight to check for accuracy. Different sites styles might represent the nature of depth within the community. Good luck!!!!
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Alethea Thompson wrote: I would also go on the record and explain that as a rule, Jediism is not the only way to practice the Jedi Path- there is an entire philosophy which looks at the path as something spiritual, but not religious in nature, known as "Jedi Realism".
I see Jediism as incorporating all styles of being a Jedi, including what you call Jedi Realism. Therefore I consider Jediism to be the broadest and most inclusive term to define the path of being a Jedi, in whatever particular balance or arrangement the individual might prefer. Whilst what you call Jedi Realists to me sounds better defined as Jedi Pragmatists almost? The use of the title Jedi Realism sounds better to define a boundary between role playing and realism, and obviously Jediism is realism.
To the OP; If it was me I probably wouldn't advertise any of the sites in the content of the course, but perhaps add them in an associated resource link/paper. I'd look through all the sites and write up what you think constitutes a good common ground between them all and then give it to a few senior members who you trust or think might have good insight to check for accuracy. Different sites styles might represent the nature of depth within the community. Good luck!!!!
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03 Mar 2013 08:46 #96473
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Adder, the terms:
Jediism, Jedi Realism, and Jedi Pragmatism are standard throughout the community now.
Jediism refers to any religious affiliation.
Jedi Realism refers to any mystic/practical sect that disavows religious order or affiliation.
And, Jedi Pragmatism focuses on the non-mystic side of the Path and closes in on SOLELY doing good deeds and "being" a Jedi.
Jediism, Jedi Realism, and Jedi Pragmatism are standard throughout the community now.
Jediism refers to any religious affiliation.
Jedi Realism refers to any mystic/practical sect that disavows religious order or affiliation.
And, Jedi Pragmatism focuses on the non-mystic side of the Path and closes in on SOLELY doing good deeds and "being" a Jedi.
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03 Mar 2013 09:07 #96475
by Adder
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Yes Connor, I know, its just I find the use of Realism in that way condescending, as seems to imply religion is not real, for it is that which it excludes. Perhaps Jedi Physicalism would sit better with me. The only way Realism fits nicely in my interpretation is to differentiate against role playing. Just my opinion of course, but thats what anyone will get if they ask me

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03 Mar 2013 16:22 #96490
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hahahha. Fair enough.

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03 Mar 2013 18:25 #96506
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Oh I'm afraid not. I have been a Jedi Realist since before the term existed, since we were all just Jedi. The term Jediism is even younger.
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I see Jediism as incorporating all styles of being a Jedi, including what you call Jedi Realism.
Oh I'm afraid not. I have been a Jedi Realist since before the term existed, since we were all just Jedi. The term Jediism is even younger.
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03 Mar 2013 18:51 - 03 Mar 2013 18:56 #96513
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I dont care how long you've been in the community, members are entitled to their opinions, and should not have them debased simply because someone else has been in the community longer. "I've been here since time before" is not a decent arguement, nor does it make a valid point...
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03 Mar 2013 20:09 #96517
by RyuJin
Quotes:
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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I prefer jedi as opposed to jediist,jedi realist, or any other variant....why must we divide ourselves when we're all jedi? The one simple unassuming word is more than enough....just my view...
Warning: Spoiler!
There is passion, yet there is peace
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Through passion I gain strength and knowledge
Through strength and knowledge I gain victory
Through victory I gain peace and harmony
Through peace and harmony my chains are broken
There is no death, there is the force and it shall free me
Quotes:
Warning: Spoiler!
Out of darkness, he brings light. Out of hatred, love. Out of dishonor, honor-james allen-
He who has conquered doubt and fear has conquered failure-james allen-
The sword is the key to heaven and hell-Mahomet-
The best won victory is that obtained without shedding blood-Count Katsu-
All men's souls are immortal, only the souls of the righteous are immortal and divine -Socrates-
I'm the best at what I do, what I do ain't pretty-wolverine
J.L.Lawson,Master Knight, M.div, Eastern Studies S.I.G. Advisor (Formerly Known as the Buddhist Rite)
Former Masters: GM Kana Seiko Haruki , Br.John
Current Apprentices: Baru
Former Apprentices:Adhara(knight), Zenchi (knight)
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03 Mar 2013 22:14 #96531
by Ben
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Replied by Ben on topic Re: Help with Teaching
'Within roughly a week's time'...
Hard to know what that means? An hour a day for 3 days?
I'd just like to court controversy here and say that if it's for a theology course, the parts of the Jedi community that are not religious aren't really particularly relevant...
I wouldn't worry too much about all of the Jedi Realism etc fandango...
If it's not religious what place does it have on a religious course?
It may be worth mentioning that not all people who call themselves Jedi are necessarily members of Jediism, but I would focus on explaining Jediism and what makes it a legitimate religious belief system...
So, going with my 3 x 1 hour idea...
Lesson 1:
- Background of Jediism (evidence of similar beliefs throughout history, the impact of the films, formalisation via the growing online community, philosophical influences)
- Core beliefs (possibly using TOTJO doctrine as examples, but ensuring that it is made clear that it is the doctrine of one organisation and not Jediism itself)
Lesson 2:
- Practices of Jediism (religious/liturgical practices, meditation, helping/protecting people (i.e. learning first aid, martial arts etc) - making it clear that these are not necessarily required but are often encouraged)
- Jediism as an inter-faith religion (would suggest contacting the Special Interest Advisors if you'd like more info on how other religions/faiths tie-in)
Lesson 3:
- Recap (you could consider asking people to write down any questions they have at the end of the previous lesson and then plan the last session to cover some of these perhaps)
I'm by no means saying that's how you ought to do it...they're just some suggestions off of the top of my head.
I'm guessing that realistically you'll only have time to give an overview...so stick to what you think the most important things are. Don't worry about explaining every tiny little thing...if anyone wants to find out more information as a result of your lessons, that's what the internet is for...
Hard to know what that means? An hour a day for 3 days?
I'd just like to court controversy here and say that if it's for a theology course, the parts of the Jedi community that are not religious aren't really particularly relevant...
I wouldn't worry too much about all of the Jedi Realism etc fandango...
If it's not religious what place does it have on a religious course?
It may be worth mentioning that not all people who call themselves Jedi are necessarily members of Jediism, but I would focus on explaining Jediism and what makes it a legitimate religious belief system...
So, going with my 3 x 1 hour idea...
Lesson 1:
- Background of Jediism (evidence of similar beliefs throughout history, the impact of the films, formalisation via the growing online community, philosophical influences)
- Core beliefs (possibly using TOTJO doctrine as examples, but ensuring that it is made clear that it is the doctrine of one organisation and not Jediism itself)
Lesson 2:
- Practices of Jediism (religious/liturgical practices, meditation, helping/protecting people (i.e. learning first aid, martial arts etc) - making it clear that these are not necessarily required but are often encouraged)
- Jediism as an inter-faith religion (would suggest contacting the Special Interest Advisors if you'd like more info on how other religions/faiths tie-in)
Lesson 3:
- Recap (you could consider asking people to write down any questions they have at the end of the previous lesson and then plan the last session to cover some of these perhaps)
I'm by no means saying that's how you ought to do it...they're just some suggestions off of the top of my head.
I'm guessing that realistically you'll only have time to give an overview...so stick to what you think the most important things are. Don't worry about explaining every tiny little thing...if anyone wants to find out more information as a result of your lessons, that's what the internet is for...

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