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DK, I like the shower example because as Jedi every day is a holy day and every minute a precious gem.

If anyone ever completes the basic classes I have one planned all about the corruption of religion and the evilness of religion. In the days leading to the schism I was accused of making this up as a money making project and I hope that we eventually do make lots of money through surplus donations, selling things from CafePress.com, ID cards, books etc so we can do things like give scholarships, give micro loans to folks in developing countries to start businesses and other fun things we can think of.

Our nobody gets paid policy is what saves us from corruption.

I know that you are a better person than those mealy mouth hypocrites on TV that make a fortune with most of it comping from upper middle age widows. You are a better person that those MF's at that 'church' that pickets soldiers funerals. I could go on and yes I am judging.

Since the aforementioned folks are tax exempt and get the perks of being clergy should not you and The Order be entitled to at least the same?

I say church sometimes because I'm used to legal language and it's a generic term used by the courts and the IRS but we are a Temple and I never even thought of calling us Church of the Jedi Order. Yuck. I bet you and a lot of folks would feel the same.

I'm using you as an example but this goes for everyone here as far as I know. They'll be folks who get a ministers license so they can make a little money do marriages but I don't think that's evil. They are doing a service and I'm considering charging non-participating members who are licensed ministers an annual renewal fee.

I'm glad you bring these things up because it brings these things out in the open and religion and church are loaded terms so lets go ahead an shoot them.

I think churches should pay tax just like everyone else but I'm going to take advantage of the fact that they don't in the hope of building funds, not to pay employees, but to do the good works like I mentioned and I know you can think of more.

I like the term community to describe us personally.

MTFBWY,

M (Br. John)

DK, I like the shower example because as Jedi every day is a holy day and every minute a precious gem.

If anyone ever completes the basic classes I have one planned all about the corruption of religion and the evilness of religion. In the days leading to the schism I was accused of making this up as a money making project and I hope that we eventually do make lots of money through surplus donations, selling things from CafePress.com, ID cards, books etc so we can do things like give scholarships, give micro loans to folks in developing countries to start businesses and other fun things we can think of.

Our nobody gets paid policy is what saves us from corruption.

I know that you are a better person than those mealy mouth hypocrites on TV that make a fortune with most of it comping from upper middle age widows. You are a better person that those MF's at that 'church' that pickets soldiers funerals. I could go on and yes I am judging.

Since the aforementioned folks are tax exempt and get the perks of being clergy should not you and The Order be entitled to at least the same?

I say church sometimes because I'm used to legal language and it's a generic term used by the courts and the IRS but we are a Temple and I never even thought of calling us Church of the Jedi Order. Yuck. I bet you and a lot of folks would feel the same.

I'm using you as an example but this goes for everyone here as far as I know. They'll be folks who get a ministers license so they can make a little money do marriages but I don't think that's evil. They are doing a service and I'm considering charging non-participating members who are licensed ministers an annual renewal fee.

I'm glad you bring these things up because it brings these things out in the open and religion and church are loaded terms so lets go ahead an shoot them.

I think churches should pay tax just like everyone else but I'm going to take advantage of the fact that they don't in the hope of building funds, not to pay employees, but to do the good works like I mentioned and I know you can think of more.

I like the term community to describe us personally.

MTFBWY,

M (Br. John)

Just to add to this. Is a religion really evil? Or anymore than a gun or money? Or are the doers in the wrong? No religion, no politics, no institution, no club...is free from error. Maybe not even this Temple. Where there are humans there is always error. We all have a choice: we can spend our time riding on the mistakes; we can fly high in the clouds seeing everything as being rosy; we can try to change, learn and improve.

Is a religion really evil? Or anymore than a gun or money? Or are the doers in the wrong? No religion, no politics, no institution, no club...is free from error. Maybe not even this Temple.

You are right but I said may be evil not must be.

Sorry Br.John, I can`t manage to open this.

is that to say that guns and money are evil? or am I just misreading?

*things* are not evil...

*MEN* are evil...men's *hearts* are evil...

things are just things...

Timothy 14:10 \"For the love of MONEY is the ROOT of ALL evil..\"

Hell, I am not even Christian, and this makes PERFECT sense to me!

KeyanFlamecloud wrote:

is that to say that guns and money are evil? or am I just misreading?

*things* are not evil...

*MEN* are evil...men's *hearts* are evil...

things are just things...

Timothy 14:10 \"For the love of MONEY is the ROOT of ALL evil..\"

Hell, I am not even Christian, and this makes PERFECT sense to me!

Lol. No I did not say this. Indeed to claim an inaminate object is evil would be rediculous.

I said that a concept or inanimate object is a medium through which the doer expresses his/her intent, whether for good or bad.

:ohmy: That was a great example. I have to admit that as a Christian Jedi I coul`n`t have done better myself.

KeyanFlamecloud wrote:

is that to say that guns and money are evil? or am I just misreading?

*things* are not evil...

*MEN* are evil...men's *hearts* are evil...

things are just things...

Timothy 14:10 \"For the love of MONEY is the ROOT of ALL evil..\"

Hell, I am not even Christian, and this makes PERFECT sense to me!

This is a false analogy. Religion is not an inanimate object and cannot exist without people so when I say religion can be evil it's a given that it's the person or people who make it evil.

I did not think I had to be so specific like saying \"Please draw me a round circle.

BTW: If God can do anything can she make herself cease to exist and could she make a rock so heavy that she could not pick it up?

I'm replying to your post Master Keyan but the post is directed to everyone.

M (Br. John+)