Why Is God Still Involved In American Politics?
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By Amanda Marcotte, AlterNet
Posted on October 12, 2011, Printed on October 19, 2011
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That and the fact that politicians rarely actually seem to care about their people, but would like to make them think they do...
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it's sad but true....even though the founding fathers weren't all christians and set up the constitution to keep religion out of politics, religion is still a major component in gathering the votes needed to gain office...appealing to the masses, that's a politicians goal...few if any have any views of their own....
i'm begining to think that maybe all politicians should be required to be atheist, that way religion isn't a factor in politics...but then the christians would pitch a fit calling everyone heathens etc...they'd probably whine about discrimination too....
politicians try to please everyone, the problem is not everyone can be pleased....my goal isn't to please anyone...i simply do what is needed, when it's needed...even if it makes me unpopular
as albert einstein said: what is popular isn't always right, what is right isn't always popular
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This [strike]devil worshipper [/strike] democrat invented relativity for the sole purpose of indoctrinating our children into darwinism, I do not believe we can trust anything he ever said. Praise our Lord Jesus Christ. Vote republican.as albert einstein said: what is popular isn't always right, what is right isn't always popular
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If people stopped insulting other peoples religions (irregardless of the reasons for wanting to do it), then it might reduce the segregation which seems to be creating battle lines, which leads to each group exagerating themselves and building up walls and hype in an effort to counter attacks and rally supporters under a clearly delinated identity. This is what seems to be happening in the US.
I think 'the' issue needs to be that government processes are secular and non-discriminatory to everyone, and so mentioning particular religions is just helping to make the problem into something bigger. As I said initially though secular shouldn't mean stripping all mention of religion because it can have a non-functional cultural role - having traditions can connect people to history and represent a culture and having a culture doesnt mean you cannot create new history which is additional and leads to a bigger and more indepth culture. At the moment the culture is hate, division and discrimination from aspects of both sides of the argument.
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It's a shame people are being discriminated against because of their spiritual beliefs (or lack of) but its a predictable result when it becomes socially acceptable to insult other peoples religious identities for some reason.
That reason would be freedom of thought/conscience and speech/expression. To dislike others (their beliefs, way of life, etc) is a right. To rule over them, not so much. This means it should be possible to insult them, but not prevent them from going about their business. The reason why people now want to prevent others from going about their business is because they are losing their right to "hate". Even doing some hatin' on facebook is now a crime (in the UK anyway). You can be sure the guy who got months of prison for that will be voting nationalist at the next elections.
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so I win.
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ren wrote:
It's a shame people are being discriminated against because of their spiritual beliefs (or lack of) but its a predictable result when it becomes socially acceptable to insult other peoples religious identities for some reason.
That reason would be freedom of thought/conscience and speech/expression. To dislike others (their beliefs, way of life, etc) is a right. To rule over them, not so much. This means it should be possible to insult them, but not prevent them from going about their business. The reason why people now want to prevent others from going about their business is because they are losing their right to "hate". Even doing some hatin' on facebook is now a crime (in the UK anyway). You can be sure the guy who got months of prison for that will be voting nationalist at the next elections.
I'm not saying it should be illegal, just that I think its counterproductive.
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I've talked about this before, but at the end of the day God and religion is going to be involved in every day life as long as people follow religions that encourage their members to believe this idea that only their religion is right and anyone following any other religion is wrong and should be converted. That is the problem right there in a nut shell.
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