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21 Aug 2019 18:22 #341562 by Carlos.Martinez3
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Projections are every where. Reflections in the pool are said to points of enlightenment and even change yet ... it’s just us. Or is it ? When we learn something for ourselves ... what we see is that - what we have learned... for ourselves. Ever feel like why can’t others see it too? Do we project our own “knowledge” and call it universal or specific or even nothing at all? What do you all think? If we defend something - are we projecting ? Isn’t that how we share ? Is there a way to better project or even present what we know and still leave room for grow or - we red saber it ? Hack away? Do other people’s projections hurt ? Why ? Just wondering ...

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22 Aug 2019 12:37 #341723 by Streen
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If I follow what you're asking, projections are not something I worry about. BE YOU..... and that's all. When you finally become who you are, the first thing you realize is that there is nothing to fear.

The truth is always greater than the words we use to describe it.
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22 Aug 2019 13:08 #341734 by rugadd
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I think we can't help it. We only have so much to work with, right? I understand my view is limited so I just strive to improve the view.

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22 Aug 2019 14:03 #341751 by Carlos.Martinez3
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Same here Rugad - I don’t think it’s as “automatic” as I would like to claim but for me - here lately in my older moments in life - what and how I say it are just as important if not more than what is said some times. Presentation is everything some times.

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22 Aug 2019 14:25 #341760 by Manu
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Luciana once mentioned, in a different site:

"The more you become self-aware, the more you learn to recognize the "you" you are seeing in another".

I think it is quite apt.

The pessimist complains about the wind;
The optimist expects it to change;
The realist adjusts the sails.
- William Arthur Ward
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22 Aug 2019 14:56 #341773 by Carlos.Martinez3
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Manu wrote: Luciana once mentioned, in a different site:

"The more you become self-aware, the more you learn to recognize the "you" you are seeing in another".

I think it is quite apt.


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Isn’t that the case a lot though. I and my little brother do it a lot in our speech. I do. Example : gravity sucks- truth -I have found every instance where gravity floors me to suck. Small adjustments like that can help lol .
How can we practice to get over or through or even change that? I know I’m working on it daily.

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22 Aug 2019 18:22 #341849 by
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_Vergere_ wrote: If I follow what you're asking, projections are not something I worry about. BE YOU..... and that's all. When you finally become who you are, the first thing you realize is that there is nothing to fear.


Well said. Fear is merely separation from the Force.

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22 Aug 2019 21:53 #341942 by
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Arinme wrote:

_Vergere_ wrote: If I follow what you're asking, projections are not something I worry about. BE YOU..... and that's all. When you finally become who you are, the first thing you realize is that there is nothing to fear.


Well said. Fear is merely separation from the Force.


I have a theory about these ideas. Just a theory - unproven, speculative, but whenever I contemplate it something in my soul is stirred.

In general, we tend to express, or project, a version of ourselves that we believe approximates an ideal called "normal". That projection is not a mask that thoroughly obstructs our real identities; part of us always shows through, more for some people than others. However, it's a distortion we willing adopt in order to attain social acceptance, and avoid an intolerable amount of turbulence in our lives.

Yet, the authentic self of each of us is nowhere near a normal ideal. We are each full of quirks, aberrations, sparks of genius, shadows of terror, and protected realms of intense vulnerability. Our real identity is something magical and spectacular - but also relatively defenseless against the onslaught of the world's judgement if exposed.

Our secret, hidden self, with all its wonder and darkness, is constantly striving for expression. The more public layer of ourselves, more rooted in survival and comfort, works diligently to insure that such exposure only happens to the extent it is safe. So, our most authentic core is constantly hidden and perhaps frustrated, due to fear.

I like to think that the closure of our separation from the Force resolves that dilemma, guiding us to become one of those fortunate people who fully express their true natures in a way that still preserves their viability in 3D human existence. I hope that's the case.

What do you think?

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22 Aug 2019 21:59 - 22 Aug 2019 22:03 #341943 by
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Omhu Cuspor wrote:

Arinme wrote:

_Vergere_ wrote: If I follow what you're asking, projections are not something I worry about. BE YOU..... and that's all. When you finally become who you are, the first thing you realize is that there is nothing to fear.


Well said. Fear is merely separation from the Force.


I have a theory about these ideas. Just a theory - unproven, speculative, but whenever I contemplate it something in my soul is stirred.

In general, we tend to express, or project, a version of ourselves that we believe approximates an ideal called "normal". That projection is not a mask that thoroughly obstructs our real identities; part of us always shows through, more for some people than others. However, it's a distortion we willing adopt in order to attain social acceptance, and avoid an intolerable amount of turbulence in our lives.

Yet, the authentic self of each of us is nowhere near a normal ideal. We are each full of quirks, aberrations, sparks of genius, shadows of terror, and protected realms of intense vulnerability. Our real identity is something magical and spectacular - but also relatively defenseless against the onslaught of the world's judgement if exposed.

Our secret, hidden self, with all its wonder and darkness, is constantly striving for expression. The more public layer of ourselves, more rooted in survival and comfort, works diligently to insure that such exposure only happens to the extent it is safe. So, our most authentic core is constantly hidden and perhaps frustrated, due to fear.

I like to think that the closure of our separation from the Force resolves that dilemma, guiding us to become one of those fortunate people who fully express their true natures in a way that still preserves their viability in 3D human existence. I hope that's the case.

What do you think?


THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THIS WORKS.

I strongly believe we need to make TotJO as safe as possible for this reason. To foster expression of the true self, in a trusted environment, where we can all learn and grow as human beings.
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22 Aug 2019 22:05 #341945 by
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Arinme wrote:

Omhu Cuspor wrote:

Arinme wrote:

_Vergere_ wrote: If I follow what you're asking, projections are not something I worry about. BE YOU..... and that's all. When you finally become who you are, the first thing you realize is that there is nothing to fear.


Well said. Fear is merely separation from the Force.


I have a theory about these ideas. Just a theory - unproven, speculative, but whenever I contemplate it something in my soul is stirred.

In general, we tend to express, or project, a version of ourselves that we believe approximates an ideal called "normal". That projection is not a mask that thoroughly obstructs our real identities; part of us always shows through, more for some people than others. However, it's a distortion we willing adopt in order to attain social acceptance, and avoid an intolerable amount of turbulence in our lives.

Yet, the authentic self of each of us is nowhere near a normal ideal. We are each full of quirks, aberrations, sparks of genius, shadows of terror, and protected realms of intense vulnerability. Our real identity is something magical and spectacular - but also relatively defenseless against the onslaught of the world's judgement if exposed.

Our secret, hidden self, with all its wonder and darkness, is constantly striving for expression. The more public layer of ourselves, more rooted in survival and comfort, works diligently to insure that such exposure only happens to the extent it is safe. So, our most authentic core is constantly hidden and perhaps frustrated, due to fear.

I like to think that the closure of our separation from the Force resolves that dilemma, guiding us to become one of those fortunate people who fully express their true natures in a way that still preserves their viability in 3D human existence. I hope that's the case.

What do you think?


THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THIS WORKS.

I strongly believe we need to make TotJO as safe as possible for this reason. To foster expression of the true self, in a trusted environment, where we can all learn and grow as human beings.


Safe for who? Who gets to express their true self freely here and who doesn't? Think carefully because some WILL be excluded from your safe space utopia.

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22 Aug 2019 22:15 #341946 by Carlos.Martinez3
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Is any body safe where there is ... people?

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Just kidding - but seriously we here try to make things as safe as possible and it’s almost a priority always when things get official. Most times the hope is that we can act - Admirably. It’s not s necessity but it helps. No one wants to be salty all the time. When things begin to weigh heavy - the enjoyment parts seem to fade or get forgotten. Not saying that learning HAS to be fun at all... always ... but it’s nice to enjoy it more often than not. My 2 cents.
I think our projections can and could use a bit of training and a bit of time as far as growing in that part of our life’s. Definite benefit.

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22 Aug 2019 22:37 - 22 Aug 2019 22:37 #341950 by
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Phoenix Vidensia wrote:

Arinme wrote:

Omhu Cuspor wrote:

Arinme wrote:

_Vergere_ wrote: If I follow what you're asking, projections are not something I worry about. BE YOU..... and that's all. When you finally become who you are, the first thing you realize is that there is nothing to fear.


Well said. Fear is merely separation from the Force.


I have a theory about these ideas. Just a theory - unproven, speculative, but whenever I contemplate it something in my soul is stirred.

In general, we tend to express, or project, a version of ourselves that we believe approximates an ideal called "normal". That projection is not a mask that thoroughly obstructs our real identities; part of us always shows through, more for some people than others. However, it's a distortion we willing adopt in order to attain social acceptance, and avoid an intolerable amount of turbulence in our lives.

Yet, the authentic self of each of us is nowhere near a normal ideal. We are each full of quirks, aberrations, sparks of genius, shadows of terror, and protected realms of intense vulnerability. Our real identity is something magical and spectacular - but also relatively defenseless against the onslaught of the world's judgement if exposed.

Our secret, hidden self, with all its wonder and darkness, is constantly striving for expression. The more public layer of ourselves, more rooted in survival and comfort, works diligently to insure that such exposure only happens to the extent it is safe. So, our most authentic core is constantly hidden and perhaps frustrated, due to fear.

I like to think that the closure of our separation from the Force resolves that dilemma, guiding us to become one of those fortunate people who fully express their true natures in a way that still preserves their viability in 3D human existence. I hope that's the case.

What do you think?


THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THIS WORKS.

I strongly believe we need to make TotJO as safe as possible for this reason. To foster expression of the true self, in a trusted environment, where we can all learn and grow as human beings.


Safe for who? Who gets to express their true self freely here and who doesn't? Think carefully because some WILL be excluded from your safe space utopia.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/alive-inside/201304/seven-qualities-the-true-self

I'm not building utopia. I'm talking about building fellowship. It's that thing that works so well in other religions, that many here are looking for yet struggle to express.

Our doctrine includes the guiding principles on which we base our fellowship. The way that we know this is working is when people are able to express love freely.
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23 Aug 2019 04:22 #341963 by
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Arinme wrote:
... I strongly believe we need to make TotJO as safe as possible for this reason. To foster expression of the true self, in a trusted environment, where we can all learn and grow as human beings.


That sounds like a marvelous objective to me. I pledge to do my utmost to contribute to this vision. :-)

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23 Aug 2019 04:41 #341966 by
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I would say being open is more apt than safe simply by definition, because as Jedi, should we not seek knowledge? We can only seek said knowledge if we are open to discussions, even with people we DON'T like.

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