Debating the existence of toxic masculinity/femininity

Hmm. I'm not sure how to answer you. My offer still stands for mediation though

Arisaig wrote: but, to get back on topic:


(Stolen from a share Steamboat did on his facebook ;p) This image really just encapsulates how I feel about the issue overall.

This is really a horrible analogy though. Masculinity is not a sickness. This is equivalent to saying

Burger = a Burger
Toxic Burger = A spoiled salmonella ridden, maggot burger

People lover burgers and they love cheese burgers but why would anyone ever eat a burger when the burger is associated with toxicity??

Rosalyn J wrote: Hmm. I'm not sure how to answer you. My offer still stands for mediation though

I'm really just dumbfounded at this reply... How do you not know how to answer me? it seems a simple straightforward question. If a rape victim came to you and said her abuser was still chasing her and she needed help would you just say... "well maybe you should mediate with him" or "well I'm not sure how to help you, maybe ask somebody else"... This is really unbelievable!!

Maybe I don't know how to do my job. In which case you may ask the Council to have me removed.

For reference the sitting Council are
Ren
Br John
Adhara
CarlosMartinez3
JL Spinner
And myself. You may message anyone with evidence of my ineptitude. 5 Councillors must agree

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote:

Arisaig wrote: but, to get back on topic:


(Stolen from a share Steamboat did on his facebook ;p) This image really just encapsulates how I feel about the issue overall.

This is really a horrible analogy though. Masculinity is not a sickness. This is equivalent to saying

Burger = a Burger
Toxic Burger = A spoiled salmonella ridden, maggot burger

People lover burgers and they love cheese burgers but why would anyone ever eat a burger when the burger is associated with toxicity??

You're entirely missing the point. Read it again. Its not saying all masculinity or burgers are bad. Only certain ones.

As you said, who would eat a rotten maggoty burger and go 'yup, all burgers are like this!'

Rosalyn J wrote: Maybe I don't know how to do my job. In which case you may ask the Council to have me removed.

For reference the sitting Council are
Ren
Br John
Adhara
CarlosMartinez3
JL Spinner
And myself. You may message anyone with evidence of my ineptitude. 5 Councillors must agree

Wow, way to play the victim Ros. As a leader here this is a completely inappropriate response. Get off the Drama Triangle and be better! Are you not the lead clergy here? Is not your exact job to council? If you cant do that you should not have to be removed, you should just step down!!

Arisaig wrote:
You're entirely missing the point. Read it again. Its not saying all masculinity or burgers are bad. Only certain ones.

As you said, who would eat a rotten maggoty burger and go 'yup, all burgers are like this!'

Anyone that has been told from birth that burgers are maggoty and you should never eat them. That is the very issue here. An entire generation of people are being taught that masculinity is toxic and its just not true.

I do not intend to step down

Rosalyn J wrote: I do not intend to step down

Then you are a hypocrite. And this is not bullying, its just a hard truth.

Thank you for your assesment.

The process is available for you to have me removed.

You may also take up my offer for mediation.

You may also speak with another member of the clergy. John, Carlos and JL are members of the clergy.

I answered your question. I dont think I can provide anymore support than that