Why the hostility

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17 Aug 2017 16:21 #298016 by
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I am sorry if anything I said made you feel uncomfortable. That was definitely not my intent, and to be clear I certainly wasn't mad at you at all.

However, please also note that not every passionate discussion that happens around you is about you or directed at you. Sometimes people can be trying to work through emotions about a thing, but that doesn't mean they are angry at the person listening or discussing that thing with them. They are only upset about the thing being discussed. That is very much what was happening last night in chat--people were working through feelings that had nothing to do with you personally.

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17 Aug 2017 16:29 #298017 by Carlos.Martinez3
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My friend , with every where and everyone you will find common flaws. We are people. I've been here for a while and have seen... Noticed , what u see as well. My hope is during your seek... During your search during your life during your time here while on your path... This place would help you grow. You'll find arguments and name calling and opinions ... A ton of opinions . A wise heart will notice log and proceed. People have opinions about everything . I think the farmers creed says ... We all get two opinions like pots and they will probly stink...
I've learned after some time what is fact and opinion. Like I said every ones entitled .. Rightfully so ! I hope this place helps you ! If you need an an outraging word find me ! Be well and may the Force be with you .. As you seek it !!

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17 Aug 2017 17:15 #298029 by OB1Shinobi
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wolfboy5802 wrote: there is this thing about nazis going around it makes me uncomfortable to be on here with the hostility around the issue any advice


I have some advise.
The first is that my anxiety doesnt have to be your anxiety. If i am angry or sad or confused, you dont have to take those emotions onto yourself. It is possible (and very useful) to be able to keep your own emotional balance even when others have lost theres. And of course the other side to that is that other people dont have to feel your anxiety either. It is healthy (and important) to understand that the people around you are not obligated to become distraught when you are distraught, and to be ok with that.

The next bit of advise that I have is to reach out to some of the people who you do feel comfortable about, people who seem to be nice on a regular basis, and who you think might be trustworthy. They might be able to help you to process the goings-on when the Temple becomes more rambunctious.

Last on this point: I have come to understand that there are people who come here looking for shelter and protection, something i didnt fully appreciate for quite a while. While I have come around to some bit of empathy for that position, it still remains true that life isnt safe, and the internet isnt safe, and that this is a place meant to teach people how to be Jedi.
i do believe that times are becoming more chaotic, more extreme, more polarized, and more violent. Things are getting worse and not better, and the only chance that society has to mitigate the violence that is coming is to talk candidly and thoroughly about it now. Thats the sort of thing that a Jedi might feel they should be doing. If you dont feel up to that task now then a great beginning point in your own training might be in asking yourself what experiences you have to go through and what knowledge you need to gain in order to be able to participate in such discussions in a useful and insightful way.

:-)

On a side note: why is everybody apologizing? Its certainly your prerogative to do so if yud like, but not a single one of you have done anything that it is necessary to apologize for. You have views and youve been expressing your views, thats what we do here. Up to this point we have all been respectful of each other, and no one has insisted the other must completely stupid or morally corrupt for having their views. One member acknowledged that his emotions were getting the better f him and he excused himself from the discussion. That was great. It takes wisdom and self control to be able to recognize our own limits and to take action to prevent ourselves from acting in a way that we will regret.

People dont like nazis, awesome. Who can blame them for that?

The only time any of us owe an apology is when we set a bad example, and so far, i dont see that anyone has. I actually think people are doing incredibly well for us to be at 7 pages on such a hot issue without anyone stepping out of line (that i have seen as of beginning this post... a couple new posts have just shown up so lol i might be holding my breath)
Anyway i think people in that thread deserve a"great job so far" for their conduct up to this point.

People are complicated.
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