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Tolerance and it's place
08 Aug 2017 22:19 #295927
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Curious as to your insight into this article. I myself am still thinking about it.
Curious as to your insight into this article. I myself am still thinking about it.
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08 Aug 2017 23:15 #295937
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I appreciate this. I've ended up using this phrase a few times this week: Nowhere is it written that a Jedi may not establish reasonable boundaries. Glad you found and shared this.
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08 Aug 2017 23:37 #295941
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There are differences between tolerance, acceptance, indifference, and apathy, but they all relate to any given scenario, so really which one applies is based on what..intent?
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Just as nowhere is it written that a Jedi must establish reasonable boundaries either.Cabur Senaar wrote: I appreciate this. I've ended up using this phrase a few times this week: Nowhere is it written that a Jedi may not establish reasonable boundaries. Glad you found and shared this.
There are differences between tolerance, acceptance, indifference, and apathy, but they all relate to any given scenario, so really which one applies is based on what..intent?
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09 Aug 2017 00:09 #295945
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If your going that route, I would say perceived intent. Not an agreement, just a probably following...
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09 Aug 2017 00:33 #295949
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I think it relies on your best judgement.
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09 Aug 2017 02:31 #295962
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Luke 6:32-26
If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
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If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.
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I shall never seek so much to be consoled as to console;
To be understood as to understand;
To be loved as to love;
For it is in giving that we receive;
It is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
And it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.
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09 Aug 2017 02:46 #295963
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You can love someone and still not tolerate their actions.
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09 Aug 2017 02:52 #295964
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Very true.
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The realist adjusts the sails.
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steamboat28 wrote: You can love someone and still not tolerate their actions.
Very true.

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09 Aug 2017 03:05 #295965
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I would say that using discretion, defending the faith and the Temple, being grounded in reason and compassion, believing in a society that does not discriminate, and having integrity could all be considered "establishing reasonable boundaries" as a Jedi. We establish boundaries all the time. That doesn't mean we are necessarily intolerant. In fact, establishing boundaries can be a way of showing tolerance.
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09 Aug 2017 03:24 #295968
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The self-confidence of the warrior is not the self-confidence of the average man. The average man seeks certainty in the eyes of the onlooker and calls that self-confidence. The warrior seeks impeccability in his own eyes and calls that humbleness. The average man is hooked to his fellow men, while the warrior is hooked only to infinity.
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Seconded on the judgment piece, Cabur.
We all have some notion of what our strengths and weaknesses are when it comes to judgment - and should continually work to improve them. Act in a way that will minimize your weaknesses in judgment and maximize your strengths.
There are also ways to establish those boundaries and address line-stepping without become overly emotional...and I think therein is the key.
We are ALL going to be perceived as wrong, inaccurate, blunt, offensive, and obtuse at points. That is the cost of engaging in meaningful conversation on sensitive topics sometimes. The framework we use to do so can minimize that to an extent, and provide an off-ramp for escalating emotional situations. I think that is part of the key to all this - being able to identify a situation that could go south and taking steps to prevent it.
We all have some notion of what our strengths and weaknesses are when it comes to judgment - and should continually work to improve them. Act in a way that will minimize your weaknesses in judgment and maximize your strengths.
There are also ways to establish those boundaries and address line-stepping without become overly emotional...and I think therein is the key.
We are ALL going to be perceived as wrong, inaccurate, blunt, offensive, and obtuse at points. That is the cost of engaging in meaningful conversation on sensitive topics sometimes. The framework we use to do so can minimize that to an extent, and provide an off-ramp for escalating emotional situations. I think that is part of the key to all this - being able to identify a situation that could go south and taking steps to prevent it.
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