I am tired of the hate and ignorance. People are being manipulated into hating Muslims

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13 Jun 2016 22:48 #244941 by
I think it's been made quite clear that the powers that be have been trying to divide us for years. They've done the same thing with races like white and blacks, whenever cops are involved, they have to bring up the race, (as if that was important to begin with) Or they end up talking about the motive's of the lunatics. Even if you found out the motive, they still broke the law. It doesn't make it less or more heinous of a crime

People act as if if they weren't Muslim, they wouldn't have committed crimes. Seeing how there is good and bad Muslims, it never occurred to some people that maybe they were just lunatics? And that you're going to see lunatics, no matter what faith they belong to? IF what they said was true, how come my Muslim friends have never force converted me? And I know people are going to bring up that law in Muslim culture that gives Muslims permission to lie about their faith, but it was not because they can't infiltrate, It was used for protection against other countries who asked what their faith was, and that they have permission to lie about it. If a Buddhist majority country was oppressing non Buddhists, a Muslim could like about their faith to avoid being persecuted. Most of these Muslim bashers never even met a Muslim in their life, let alone talked to one, like I have. I have experience, because I wanted to know the truth. I know there are good Muslims as well as bad.

Then people read 2 pages of the Quran and read the news, which is bias anyway and come to the conclusion that every single Muslim believes in the exact sam thing (even though there's multiple branches of Islam) and that they all want to force convert everyone (even though the Quran has also spoken out against force conversion) Some of these attacks come from Christians mentioning contradictions in the Quran. (Yeah, like there's no contradictions in the Bible or other holy scriptures, right?)

They have no idea they are being manipulated into hating them.

The powers that be want boogeymen, to scare people, and people think if they see the faith of the lunatic, they begin to think everyone who shares that faith is equally bad and is supporting such actions, even though there have been Muslims condemning it and even fighting against it overseas. You do know ISIS and Boko Harraam has killed Muslims too, right? And you do know Muslim majority countries have been fighting against them, right?

Am I seriously the only one noticing this divide and conquer move? This isn't a new trick, this has been done before and millions are falling for it. They are being manipulated into hating each other, so they will be too weak and distracted to know who the real enemy is. You think there's a War on Islam? No. There never was? It doesn't make sense. How can you declare war on an idea, and how can you win it? Makes about as much sense as the war on terror? That can't be won because it's supposed to be not winnable so the wars go on and on, because you're not fighting a country or entity.

You think Muslims are the biggest enemy? Not even close. Some Muslims are already on your side. They want the same things you want, which is peace with their loved ones. Instead focus on the people who manipulated you in the first place.

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14 Jun 2016 01:18 #244956 by
You continue to spout the same line while contining to never identify whoe these "powers that be" are. Muselims are not our enemy but any radicalized group, including muselums, are the enemy if they are bent on the destruction of property and lives to further their cause. My opinion is they need to be put down like the rabid dogs they are.

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14 Jun 2016 01:58 #244961 by MadHatter

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: You continue to spout the same line while contining to never identify whoe these "powers that be" are. Muselims are not our enemy but any radicalized group, including muselums, are the enemy if they are bent on the destruction of property and lives to further their cause. My opinion is they need to be put down like the rabid dogs they are.


To a degree I get where you are coming from. However when calling for such action you had best be willing to sign on the dotted line and enlist to do it yourself. Because to do such a thing will be a heavy heavy cost emotionally, spiritually, and physically. Violence in general costs the person who commits it even with noble and righteous intent. To take it to the level of lethal intent is going to be a cost that few people are going to be able to shoulder undamaged. So if you are not willing to hold up that cost yourself one should not be advocating it.

As Jedi we are peace keepers. Sometimes this means going on the defensive and stopping violence if that is what is needed. However before we commit to such a plan you must be realistic in what it will take and what it will cost vs what benefit it will bring. Every effort to stop the situation by non violent means should be taken prior to " lighting your saber" so to speak. To give a historical example let us look at WW2. If we had not enacted vengeance and tried to cripple Germany after WW1. If we had held compassion as an ideal we would not have set in motion the situation that lead to Hitlers rise to power. Yes stopping Hitler was needed but look at what it cost. If only we had had compassion and mercy before hand we might not have had to pay that debt in the first place.

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14 Jun 2016 02:06 - 14 Jun 2016 02:11 #244963 by

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: You continue to spout the same line while contining to never identify whoe these "powers that be" are. Muselims are not our enemy but any radicalized group, including muselums, are the enemy if they are bent on the destruction of property and lives to further their cause. My opinion is they need to be put down like the rabid dogs they are.


They need to be stopped but it is surprising to see a Jedi like you to resort to violence so easily and quickly.

I'm not exactly sure why you have this strange fascination with my posts, where you have to follow every post I make and nay say every single thing I say. And don't really back it up either. I have mentioned who they are but I obviously can't name names. Mostly because the true manipulators are probably people have never even seen or heard before. Follow the money, who's profiting from these disasters, and you'll get your answer. CFR, Bildebergs, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, people who make Bill Gates look like a poor homeless man in comparison to money, influence and power. Those are just a few

They are a threat and need to be stopped. But they are not the only threat or the main threat. Getting rid of those groups doesn't get rid of the roots of the evil though. You only get rid of the grocery clerks, but you did not get rid of the managers.

Whether you think it's a conspiracy or not, it is pretty sickening to see people who choose to revel in their ignorance and despise Muslims and not even realize there are good Muslims out there.
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14 Jun 2016 02:19 #244966 by Alethea Thompson
Soooooooooo...if you think that will work, Yabuturtle, why not learn Arabic (and all of it's customs), collect a small team of people to accompany you and go over there to convince ISIS they need to lay down their weapons?

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14 Jun 2016 02:25 #244968 by MadHatter

Alethea Thompson wrote: Soooooooooo...if you think that will work, Yabuturtle, why not learn Arabic (and all of it's customs), collect a small team of people to accompany you and go over there to convince ISIS they need to lay down their weapons?


While I do not think that total peace is the answer I can easily turn this on you. If you think fighting is the answer have you enlisted in the military and asked for orders to the middle east? I do not know the answer and I do know that force should never be totally discounted but to go so easily to force is just a risky as total pacifism.

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14 Jun 2016 02:29 - 14 Jun 2016 02:34 #244969 by

Kyrin Wyldstar wrote: You continue to spout the same line while contining to never identify whoe these "powers that be" are. Muselims are not our enemy but any radicalized group, including muselums, are the enemy if they are bent on the destruction of property and lives to further their cause. My opinion is they need to be put down like the rabid dogs they are.


It's spelled Muslim. I would like to give all Americans the ability to spell this word. It's only 6 letters, and if you want a starting point between you and another culture, learning to spell their identifying words is a great opener.

Also, ISIS is the radicalized group you're trying to speak of. That is an important distinction to make. Being lazy about making it will only put barriers in the wrong places.
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14 Jun 2016 02:55 #244970 by

Alethea Thompson wrote: Soooooooooo...if you think that will work, Yabuturtle, why not learn Arabic (and all of it's customs), collect a small team of people to accompany you and go over there to convince ISIS they need to lay down their weapons?


I wish people read my posts.

Fanatics are fanatics, and they are a threat but people acting as if they are the biggest threat out there and they are not even close to being the real threat. Sometimes the more dangerous enemy is the one right in your backyard or moves more silently.

I am not suggesting we do nothing and expect them to give up their weapons. I'd rather there be no killing. I don't want anyone dead. Not even the most awful people on the planet. We do need to defend ourselves. And I thought that's what Jedi were, or at least some were, were defenders, not merciless attackers.

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14 Jun 2016 03:02 #244971 by Adder
Well I am not sure what is keeping corporations in check besides government (regulators) and other corporations (competition and probably industrial espionage!!!!) So one way would be to join a regulatory agency and try to fix it from the inside, but of course the reason any entity might have overarching power is because they already control those systems. I"m not sure the individual can do much except remain vigilant and vote with the dollar; ethical consumerism.

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14 Jun 2016 03:11 #244972 by rugadd
Careful. There are a lot of service folk whom are Jedi. Its gotta be one of the leading demographics(that's a guess). This is a good chance to experience some other viewpoints with no need to refute them.(that's solid advice)

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