All the money in the world?

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04 Jan 2016 23:40 #218960 by
This is just a silly thought I've been bouncing around in my head: If one had all the money in the world is one above the law? I believe there to be marked example both in the past and currently in the news and around the world. If one is above the law or exists outside the boundaries of it simply because of ones resources then I would imagine there would be privilege that exceeds our law and morals. My main concern being science. I've thought for some time that we as a collective should be further ahead scientifically than we are. It sometimes bothers me, but I'm not wholly a fan of technological advance and sometimes i wonder if progress is as efficient as initially thought.
If your above these laws and have night infinite resource realms of science ordinarily taboo or illegal become viable...maybe for example stem cell research. As such seemingly impossible technologies would be available to only the most wealthy and cunning.
Long story short what if the wealthiest and most powerful people lived forever and we never knew, constantly recycling themselves into the same position of power. Its a frightening thought and there certainly are a grand sum of "what ifs" but I simply wanted the opinions of my peers on this. Does this make sense?

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05 Jan 2016 00:20 #218993 by Yugen
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I belive this makes sense yes.

The "elite" or the richest in the world do have a possibility to gain immortality thanks for their resources, as for today the richer people in society get the best health care and usually can afford the latest technology. While other people with less resources can not afford such things.

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05 Jan 2016 01:19 #219014 by Brenna
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outside the law...

Thats an interesting concept. Especially when tied to the idea of money.

Care to elaborate on your thoughts there?



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05 Jan 2016 01:31 - 05 Jan 2016 01:33 #219018 by
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Proof: Fortune 500 companies and individuals. Royal and powerful family bloodlines that have kept constant and "true" through interbreeding and only marrying in certain close families since at least the times of Egypt (they claim it) that are still ruling the world.

All above the law they create, all above the money they create, they're literally a different species and through years of eugenics, indoctrination, chemical lobotomy it actually seems true, except for the simple genetic defect they all have in that they are insane and will destroy the world to preserve their status.

I mean, imagine where ever you go you fly private jet no probs, you've got planes and trains of chefs going with you all the time preparing you food grown in the highest quality using the most natural methods from farms on land you own. You and your buddys own and control all the communications corporations, you basically gave the masses education to run your governments and industry, I mean, they want to be "God" they are pretty darn close if you ask me. Of course ya'll can shrug this off as conspiracy.
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05 Jan 2016 01:49 #219031 by
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Brenna wrote: outside the law...

Thats an interesting concept. Especially when tied to the idea of money.

Care to elaborate on your thoughts there?


I mean if one had so much money that you could have anything you desired at any time. Some unbelievably large amount. And as for the law I mean the rules to which we as common people are bound by our legal system. It seems that once you amass enough resources the common law is no longer viable as one could simply trade provision for justice.

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05 Jan 2016 01:52 #219032 by
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Djavik wrote: It seems that once you amass enough resources the common law is no longer viable as one could simply trade provision for justice.


Yep you can basically buy off police and judges, have your political friends intervene or just straight up lobby to have the law rewritten. All of this has happened, is happening and will happen. But for publicity you may also go to "prison" aka country club.

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05 Jan 2016 01:58 #219037 by Brenna
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Lightstrider wrote:

Djavik wrote: It seems that once you amass enough resources the common law is no longer viable as one could simply trade provision for justice.


Yep you can basically buy off police and judges, have your political friends intervene or just straight up lobby to have the law rewritten. All of this has happened, is happening and will happen. But for publicity you may also go to "prison" aka country club.



yes, it does. but im asking what peoples thoughts on that are. Why does it happen. Why do people react that way to money. Why do they allow it?

Just ponderings, im not looking for a definitive answer.



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05 Jan 2016 02:04 #219041 by
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Brenna wrote:

Lightstrider wrote:

Djavik wrote: It seems that once you amass enough resources the common law is no longer viable as one could simply trade provision for justice.


Yep you can basically buy off police and judges, have your political friends intervene or just straight up lobby to have the law rewritten. All of this has happened, is happening and will happen. But for publicity you may also go to "prison" aka country club.



yes, it does. but im asking what peoples thoughts on that are. Why does it happen. Why do people react that way to money. Why do they allow it?

Just ponderings, im not looking for a definitive answer.


The will to survive and thrive I think, self preservation, almost pure instinct perhaps? I don't think these people are evil, if they are born into it that's just how life is for them, it's how they see things. Imagine this, you are born into such wealth and power and you see the billions are just trashing the planet and reproducing without any thoughts about sustainability. The entire conspiratorial outlook against the 1% can be flipped around to blame the 99%. Somewhere there is a middle ground.

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05 Jan 2016 02:09 #219047 by
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Brenna wrote:

Lightstrider wrote:

Djavik wrote: It seems that once you amass enough resources the common law is no longer viable as one could simply trade provision for justice.


Yep you can basically buy off police and judges, have your political friends intervene or just straight up lobby to have the law rewritten. All of this has happened, is happening and will happen. But for publicity you may also go to "prison" aka country club.



yes, it does. but im asking what peoples thoughts on that are. Why does it happen. Why do people react that way to money. Why do they allow it?

Just ponderings, im not looking for a definitive answer.

I don't believe it to be a reaction so much. I would assume that with resource comes control. The choice to make choices, even those that would be stopped by what is legal. For example if a business amasses greater wealth than the sum of all businesses within a city does it not "become" the city? Perhaps not in name but in action?

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05 Jan 2016 02:51 #219057 by
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The right to create money (see fractional reserve system) and charge interest on it is where the true power lies.

Money is nothing more than an illusion. It only has the power or value we give it. If the common man would not accept the rich mans money then the rich would be beggars overnight. Thus it is in the rich mans interest to devide the common man one against another lest he have common purpose.

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