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What happens after death if you believe in Jediism?
03 Jan 2016 22:09 #218619
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I'm just curious since I'm new to TOTJO, can somebody please help me out? Thanks

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03 Jan 2016 22:45 - 03 Jan 2016 23:12 #218632
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Edit - I believe:
We return to the wider force; that which rose up, sinks down, echoing on as it goes.
I wrote more about what I believe here
We return to the wider force; that which rose up, sinks down, echoing on as it goes.
I wrote more about what I believe here

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03 Jan 2016 23:09 #218636
by Gisteron
Better to leave questions unanswered than answers unquestioned
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There's been a number of threads on this recently, feel free to try a search...
At any rate, what happens after death really doesn't depend much on whether the dying one believed in Jediism. Jediism is by no means a very well or fully defined construct as it is, however, there doesn't seem to be much of a distinction between the post-mortal fates of Jedi and non-Jedi, as far as I have heard. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised to find Jedi who do think that what you believe in life about Jediism would have an influence outside of the legacy you left behind whilst being one.
So, as with any other question of doctrine, no clear answer. Nothing in Jediism offers one answer to this over all others and for almost every answer you hear one Jedi believe, there is another one out there who believes the contrary...
At any rate, what happens after death really doesn't depend much on whether the dying one believed in Jediism. Jediism is by no means a very well or fully defined construct as it is, however, there doesn't seem to be much of a distinction between the post-mortal fates of Jedi and non-Jedi, as far as I have heard. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised to find Jedi who do think that what you believe in life about Jediism would have an influence outside of the legacy you left behind whilst being one.
So, as with any other question of doctrine, no clear answer. Nothing in Jediism offers one answer to this over all others and for almost every answer you hear one Jedi believe, there is another one out there who believes the contrary...
Better to leave questions unanswered than answers unquestioned
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04 Jan 2016 01:28 - 04 Jan 2016 01:28 #218671
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Everything else goes on. I hope my consciousness as I know it goes on too but who knows.
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04 Jan 2016 01:55 #218675
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Thank you! I read through it and it was beautiful and provided comfort for metzb wrote: Edit - I believe:
We return to the wider force; that which rose up, sinks down, echoing on as it goes.
I wrote more about what I believe here

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04 Jan 2016 02:06 #218678
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It ultimately doesn't matter, in my opinion, and it shouldn't matter. That's the beauty of the Jedi Community is that we don't define the afterlife- which I believe is the tragedy of other theologies really. We shouldn't be living our lives in accordance of the personal endgame reward, but rather for the reward it gives others to be around us.
Just my opinion.
Just my opinion.
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04 Jan 2016 03:38 - 04 Jan 2016 03:40 #218697
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IMO
"What happens after death if you believe in Jediism?"
The same as if you do not, the difference will be in perception. Physical laws of energy recycling are scientific fact. Everything else are interpretations which we should not get attached to.
We have our experiences and we have the ability to educate ourselves and practice to develop knowledge, trust to the Force and clarity of the mind.
Out of experiences we develop trust. In the Force and it's continuity beyond matter. To not be afraid of death is to have an experience of something stronger then death. John Tavener and Hayao Miyazaki, for example, achieved this through intense spiritual artistic efforts. I achieved this through healing myself from decade-long emotional and existential trauma which brought me to my personal rock bottom.
"What happens after death if you believe in Jediism?"
The same as if you do not, the difference will be in perception. Physical laws of energy recycling are scientific fact. Everything else are interpretations which we should not get attached to.
We have our experiences and we have the ability to educate ourselves and practice to develop knowledge, trust to the Force and clarity of the mind.
Out of experiences we develop trust. In the Force and it's continuity beyond matter. To not be afraid of death is to have an experience of something stronger then death. John Tavener and Hayao Miyazaki, for example, achieved this through intense spiritual artistic efforts. I achieved this through healing myself from decade-long emotional and existential trauma which brought me to my personal rock bottom.
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04 Jan 2016 04:24 #218707
by Br. John
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Just before Ninakawa passed away the Zen master Ikkyu visited him. “Shall I lead you on?” Ikkyu asked.
Ninakawa replied: “I came here alone and I go alone. What help could you be to me?”
Ikkyu answered: “If you think you really come and go, that is your delusion. Let me show you the path on which there is no coming and no going.”
With his words, Ikkyu had revealed the path so clearly that Ninakawa smiled and passed away.
Ninakawa replied: “I came here alone and I go alone. What help could you be to me?”
Ikkyu answered: “If you think you really come and go, that is your delusion. Let me show you the path on which there is no coming and no going.”
With his words, Ikkyu had revealed the path so clearly that Ninakawa smiled and passed away.
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04 Jan 2016 04:33 #218712
by Br. John
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On Death
~ Kahlil Gibran (from The Prophet)
You would know the secret of death.
But how shall you find it unless you seek it in the heart of life?
The owl whose night-bound eyes are blind unto the day cannot unveil the mystery of light.
If you would indeed behold the spirit of death, open your heart wide unto the body of life.
For life and death are one, even as the river and the sea are one.
In the depth of your hopes and desires lies your silent knowledge of the beyond;
And like seeds dreaming beneath the snow your heart dreams of spring.
Trust the dreams, for in them is hidden the gate to eternity.
Your fear of death is but the trembling of the shepherd when he stands before the king whose hand is to be laid upon him in honour.
Is the shepherd not joyful beneath his trembling, that he shall wear the mark of the king?
Yet is he not more mindful of his trembling?
For what is it to die but to stand naked in the wind and to melt into the sun?
And what is it to cease breathing, but to free the breath from its restless tides, that it may rise and expand and seek God unencumbered?
Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing.
And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb.
And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance.
~ Kahlil Gibran (from The Prophet)
You would know the secret of death.
But how shall you find it unless you seek it in the heart of life?
The owl whose night-bound eyes are blind unto the day cannot unveil the mystery of light.
If you would indeed behold the spirit of death, open your heart wide unto the body of life.
For life and death are one, even as the river and the sea are one.
In the depth of your hopes and desires lies your silent knowledge of the beyond;
And like seeds dreaming beneath the snow your heart dreams of spring.
Trust the dreams, for in them is hidden the gate to eternity.
Your fear of death is but the trembling of the shepherd when he stands before the king whose hand is to be laid upon him in honour.
Is the shepherd not joyful beneath his trembling, that he shall wear the mark of the king?
Yet is he not more mindful of his trembling?
For what is it to die but to stand naked in the wind and to melt into the sun?
And what is it to cease breathing, but to free the breath from its restless tides, that it may rise and expand and seek God unencumbered?
Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing.
And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb.
And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance.
Founder of The Order
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04 Jan 2016 04:35 - 04 Jan 2016 04:37 #218713
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Recent similar thread
here
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I'm not sure Jediism says much about it beyond its reference in the Code/s!? Personally.... my most recent NDE seemed to be like floating up; where outer space is actually full of spiritual 'light' which can manifest familiar forms to meet you at low Earth orbit. That is as much as I could get from it and I'm in no rush to repeat it. Probably a sort of hallucination as a result of the conditions around the NDE, part of the brain dying perhaps, but who knows!!!! As a telling of the experience - its strange but true - whether anyone wants to believe it represents anything beyond a vision/dream/imagination is up to them :side:
I'll always be part skeptic, even to my own experiences :whistle:
I'm not sure Jediism says much about it beyond its reference in the Code/s!? Personally.... my most recent NDE seemed to be like floating up; where outer space is actually full of spiritual 'light' which can manifest familiar forms to meet you at low Earth orbit. That is as much as I could get from it and I'm in no rush to repeat it. Probably a sort of hallucination as a result of the conditions around the NDE, part of the brain dying perhaps, but who knows!!!! As a telling of the experience - its strange but true - whether anyone wants to believe it represents anything beyond a vision/dream/imagination is up to them :side:
I'll always be part skeptic, even to my own experiences :whistle:
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