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Conscientious Objection to Military Taxation(COMT)
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Where this gets really interesting is when you apply religions like jediism and others. The law has a provision:
"Nothing contained in this title shall be construed to require any person to be subject to combatant training and service in the armed forces of the United States who, by reason of religious training and belief, is conscientiously opposed to participation in war in any form. . . the term `religious training and belief' does not include essentially politics, sociologics, or philosophical views, or a merely personal moral code. Any person. . . whose claim is sustained by the local board shall, if he is inducted into the armed forces. . . be assigned to noncombatant service. . . or shall, if he is found to be conscientiously opposed to participation in such noncombatant service. . .perform ... civilian work contributing to the maintenance of the national health, safety, or interest. . . "-Section 6(j) of the Military Selective Service Act.
So in the Jedi doctrine, it states "We oppose the use of torture" and the US military states "We use torture". Also, in the jedi teachings it says "Each action performed, no matter the scale, influences the world. With this in mind Jedi perform each action with peace, caring, love, compassion and humility. So it is that each Jedi improves the world with each deed they perform." and "Jedi are guardians of peace".
I'm not bringing this up to convince anyone of anything, rather to show (or not) citations for the legal argument that goes something like this: Paying for war is a form of participation in war.
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How do you suggest a balance between not paying tax but having the suffer the repercussions that come with that, not everyone can claim religious objection (or claim it successfully).
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There's currently a case in the EU Human Rights Court by a group called the peace tax seven. Depending on how that goes, there may not be any repercussions for people in the UK.Edan wrote: In the UK Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs will soon be able to take unpaid tax straight from bank accounts.
How do you suggest a balance between not paying tax but having the suffer the repercussions that come with that, not everyone can claim religious objection (or claim it successfully).
There is currently a bill in the US house to allow this kind of protest. Until that passes, you just have to be prepared to deal with the consequences. One compromise is to keep your income below the poverty line so that you have no tax liability. If that's not possible, you just need to be ready to go to court. The IRS can't just take your house without seeing a judge first and that's when you can show your proof that you paid taxes and have this religious belief. I'm sure it will become one of those supreme court things eventually.
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Adder wrote: My concern is that it will not be the military which is reduced by a reduction in the tax income to the Fed Gov... unless it reached such a threshold that it was a serious burden on the economy - but in the meantime most every other area of Fed Gov services/projects would have been crippled. IMO they'd wipe NASA out before they'd wipe out any one part of the DoD.
Yes... you can't really say 'I'm paying this tax but you can only use it to pay for these things.'
Tax gets put into a pool and then divvied out from there.
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This IRS memo is dated just two years ago.
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-lafa/20133303f.pdf
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If person A chooses to not pay all their taxes due to a religious objection against it going to the DoD and courts agree, then Person B can claim religious objections against it going to. . . science programs or the healthcare system or transportation or. . . . basically anything.
That's why they do exactly what Edan said... Mass pool all tax money and then divide. So people can't nitpick what they do and don't pay taxes for.
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