"I believe that it's difficult to kill an idea..."

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03 Jun 2015 13:03 - 03 Jun 2015 13:05 #193975 by steamboat28
"...because ideas are invisible and move fast."

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03 Jun 2015 15:07 - 03 Jun 2015 15:08 #193990 by
I like that, Im not sure im im qualified to comment but here's my take on Ideas.

It all starts with knowledge. Knowledge is the absence of understanding and the awareness of our own ignorance. Because we are aware, we are pushed to eliminate this ignorance and by doing so we find knowledge. Everyone on this earth has the ability to find knowledege and understanding. Some may not have the recources, butthe ability is there. Speaking more on topic of philosophical understanding, because everyone has the ability to think there are essentially millions upon millions of ideas to be had. And Ideas, they are made up of specific pieces to a puzzle. The human mind, can put these pieces together and they form what we call an idea. Because our minds are always working, even on the subconscious layer, ideas are formed every moment of our life. They may not be good ideas, in fact I think most of them are not, but they are ideas nonetheless. It is because of that reason, because our minds are always putting these pieces together that there are ideas that pop up all over different cultures despite whatever barrier is in the way, be it language or culture or even time. These specific ideas of self and love and religion and belief and faith, all pop up because the pieces that make up these ideas are all the same, they are all common to every one of us and our mind construct them easily.

Its because of this, because of our subconscious mind always thinking, always piecing together ideas even as we sleep that we can wake with new ideas, or we have eukreka moments. Artists do it, Polititians do it, the great thinkers did it...More specifically It is difficult to kill an idea because Ideas cannot die, because Ideas are intrinsic to human nature, because Ideas all come from a common place that every single human being that is, was, or ever will be on this planet, can access. You can beat it out of a generation, you can burn it out of the books we write, you can even try to shape the minds of the very people who think them. BUT, they will always come back, every time, because Ideas are part of human nature and they are bart of the backbone that makes us what we are.
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wooow, that got really wierd....sorry..I didnt mean for all that to pop out of my brain x{
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03 Jun 2015 18:20 #194019 by Locksley
No no, this is really interesting!
And I have to say, I adore Neil Gaiman, and his wife Amanda F^&%&@G Palmer. Great people, and I've learned a lot from the work of both.

We've seen this cycle appear throughout history: an idea comes along that people become attached to, the established order kills all of those people, the idea survives either underground or - miraculously - reappears several generations later on its own, or in another part of the world. I think it speaks to the sameness of all humans at the core level, where despite societal influence, certain ideas exist as an apparently biological fact. We think a certain way because of how our genetics are wired, and so certain thoughts will constantly reform themselves.

On the specific topic I thin Neil was talking about - censorship - this is a really important point. And I especially love that he made sure to include that bit about humor, and being able to mock ideas. We've had plenty of attacks against humorists over the years who made fun of this holy thing, or that sacred thing - which tells me that the humor they use is infinitely more powerful than the ideas held by their attackers. In other words I think that ideas are powerful because they're beyond the ability of human beings to completely control, and the more control we try to exert to implement only the "right thoughts", the more we're actually devaluing those ways of thinking we hold most dear; we end up undermining our own ideas the second we say that they are the only ideas worth having. Again, that's why I appreciate humor and comedians so much - beyond just being able to make me laugh. Their entire goal in life is to poke fun at the status quo, the sacred - everything existing from solidified ideas.

But yeah, I'd love to see a day when war exists only as ideas, because everyone has finally realized that guns don't do any damn good.

We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile, and nothing can grow there. Too much, the best of us is washed away. -- J. Michael Straczynski, Babylon 5

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05 Jun 2015 15:32 #194209 by Kit
I ran into this quote today while looking up stuff for our social media and thought this was fitting here.

“The unreal is more powerful than the real, because nothing is as perfect as you can imagine it. Because its only intangible ideas, concepts, beliefs, fantasies that last. Stone crumbles. Wood rots. People, well, they die. But things as fragile as a thought, a dream, a legend, they can go on and on.” -Chuck Palahniuk

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06 Jun 2015 05:22 #194259 by Locksley
I really need to read more of Chuck's work... :)

We are all the sum of our tears. Too little and the ground is not fertile, and nothing can grow there. Too much, the best of us is washed away. -- J. Michael Straczynski, Babylon 5

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