Legalization of Medical and Recreational Cannabis

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29 Dec 2014 20:52 #175047 by
Hey Guys, This topic has always shown up on the news and such. I would like to see some opinions of how you feel about the Legalization of Medical and/or Recreational Cannabis(Marijuana). I fully support both because the fact that Alcohol and Tobacco are far more dangerous than Cannabis yet they are legal and regulated. What do you think?

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29 Dec 2014 21:10 #175049 by
My opinions are rather odd as I still go back and forth a lot. I used to be very much of the opinion that all of it should just be illegal as they all can be pretty bad for you and I disagree with the use of all of them. However, as I have grown up and matured (and joined here) I have started to be more of the opinion that what people want to put into their own bodies should really be up to them. Just because I don't want to do it doesn't mean I can tell you not to.

I do think that there should be stricter punishments for things like driving while under the influence of alcohol or drugs because that is where a personal choice can have the greatest impact on another person. Also you shouldn't be allowed to do it in public places (for me that includes regular cigarettes) you should only be able to do it in specially designated places and in your own home. I think that laws should be made to protect people from other people's decisions, not from their own.

One benefit to legalization is the tax revenue. Colorado is raking in quite a bit of dough now thanks to taxes on marijuana.

In summation, do I think marijuana should be legal? While I would not personally use it and therefore I don't care greatly if it is I also don't like restricting personal freedoms so long as they don't harm other's who choose not to partake. Make it legal, regulate it, tax the crap out of it, and put the money to good use like education.

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29 Dec 2014 21:19 #175050 by
Well said Goken.

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29 Dec 2014 22:15 #175058 by
I'm in favor of legalization, or at the very least decriminalization. Truthfully, I wouldn't care so much about legalization if they would just release all the people who were given bogus marijuana charges and continually put into the penal system like circuit.

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29 Dec 2014 23:46 #175060 by J_Roz
Best arguement I have ever heard.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zHPGvKGgHKk

I am in favor.

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30 Dec 2014 00:03 #175061 by Adder
It's probably not a good idea (thinking First Opium War) but I think it should be allowed for personal home use, both medical or recreational, but not in public or as an industry.... though I'm sure the taxes would be welcome by governments. I guess its tricky to test for impairment empirically? As unlike alcohol it seems to hang around in the system a lot longer I think.

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30 Dec 2014 01:35 #175064 by
http://higherperspective.com/2014/12/colorado.html?utm_content=buffer53d16&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

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30 Dec 2014 02:47 #175071 by
Adder You are right THC stays in the body for up to 30 days or more depending on usage. Although the actual "high" lasts for an hour or two(depending also on usage).

Take this into account:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7fa4gV06pg

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30 Dec 2014 02:59 #175072 by
As a resident of the State of Washington, I voted for it last year when it came to the ballot. I consider myself a Constitutionalist, and as such, I believe that you should be able to do whatever you please, as long as you don't infringe on other people's right to the same. If you want to get high, be my guest, as long as I don't have to smell it (it gives me headaches).

The only problem I see is that we are demanding more freedoms, but with less accountability.

"With great power comes great responsibility" - Voltaire

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30 Dec 2014 05:47 - 30 Dec 2014 05:55 #175077 by
Coming from northern California in the heart of the 'Emerald Triangle' I live and breathe the good and bad of this. Anyone truly interested in this topic should really check out the book Smoke Signals. It goes over the historical medical, industrial and spiritual use of this wonderful plant. Like anything it has good and bad aspects. Where I live, everyone is involved and our communities thrive off it. The problem here is that there are massive unregulated industrial sized grows that can have a heavy environmental cost. People who do not know what they are doing with the land cause a lot of damage as the cartels will pollute our forests and leave trash, poisons, etc. Others will pull water from places that are already stressed and clearcut entire mountain tops to put up their greenhouses.

It can actually be very helpful medically, if you watch the documentary American Drug War 2: Cannabis Destiny you will see how under the microscope compounds in cannabis will literally attack cancer cells. This scratches the surface of what this plant can do, and to consider how our bodies have an endocannabinoid system we should all really take a hard look into this. However this does not come about by smoking it, rather ingesting oils extracted from the flowers. Being a long time user of it and have actually stopped smoking I can say that it can definitely have a negative affect, but not nearly as bad as alcohol. It's really all about moderation, yes it can help you focus and relax, you can think things through and have a much more open perspective towards things but at the same time it can cause panic attacks, make you lazy, etc. Healthwise of course it's not good to have smoke in your lungs, in places like India they smoke some very dirty cannabis that leads to lung infections and is probably just as bad as tobacco in that form.

My opinion is that it should be legal just like alcohol and tobacco, but the production of it is where we run into issues. I think it should be regulated like agriculture and adhere to certain environmental controls. I think the small farmer should be covered and production not only permitted to handful of producers. There is little negative effects on the environment when one works with the land and applies organic techniques such as using compost teas and natural management of pests and molds. The amount grown should be mostly regulated based on techniques as well as your water source, the size of your property, location, etc. It's currently a $4-10 billion a year industry and of course there would be benefits from taxation and permitting processes because our towns, cities, counties, states, and nation are bankrupt and operating in the red. Then there's also the prison industrial complex that thrives off this bogus drug war.

Unfortunately, big pharma would rather have you on opiates and other harmful drugs until they can isolate something from cannabis and patent it. It's not just about using the flowers for medicine or recreation though, we all know the US required citizens to grow hemp back in the day, and the UNLIMITED uses it has that would allow all of us as individuals to regain a sense of producing our own goods again, from clothes to building materials. This issue is bigger than most people think. When I drive down south I see mountains clearcut for vineyards, I see wine tasting places everywhere, and considering the potential for cannabis I think it is insane to keep this plant from expressing itself and helping us as a whole.
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