"Stages of Faith"
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06 Mar 2014 14:10 - 06 Mar 2014 14:39 #140572
by steamboat28
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"Stages of Faith" was created by steamboat28
Found
this link
via Facebook, and if like to know what you think of it. Is it accurate? What stage do you think you're at? How do you think you might progress if you aren't where you'd like to be?
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06 Mar 2014 16:55 #140579
by Jestor
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Sith ain't Evil...
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In my experience?
Yes... Simplistic, but pretty accurate.... But, most charts are simplistic..
But you know how people hate getting pigeonholed!!!
:lol:...
ESPECIALLY ME!! :lol:...
But, yea....
MAny come here, probably between a 3 and a 4....
Again, I use the word "ESPECIALLY".... :lol:
ESPECIALLY when we move back into symbolism and 'old stories'... lol...
My path is 'right on track'...
Yes... Simplistic, but pretty accurate.... But, most charts are simplistic..

But you know how people hate getting pigeonholed!!!
:lol:...
ESPECIALLY ME!! :lol:...
But, yea....
MAny come here, probably between a 3 and a 4....
Ironically, the Stage 3 people usually think that Stage 4 people have become "backsliders"
Again, I use the word "ESPECIALLY".... :lol:
ESPECIALLY when we move back into symbolism and 'old stories'... lol...
My path is 'right on track'...

On walk-about...
Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....
"Bake or bake not. There is no fry" - Sean Ching
Rite: PureLand
Former Memeber of the TOTJO Council
Master: Jasper_Ward
Current Apprentices: Viskhard, DanWerts, Llama Su, Trisskar
Former Apprentices: Knight Learn_To_Know, Knight Edan, Knight Brenna, Knight Madhatter
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06 Mar 2014 18:10 #140588
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Looks like the hero's adventure to me.
“For it is easy to criticize and break down the spirit of others, but to know yourself takes a lifetime.”
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06 Mar 2014 21:25 - 06 Mar 2014 21:25 #140594
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Interesting!! I disagree with the age assessments, they seem to be a bit worse case for age scenario.
I crossed referenced it to my more general human 'development' diagram (which is best case for age) and I think it fit's quite nicely. Though mine has 7 steps and that has 6.
I think the first 3 levels are a 1 for 1 match, but level 4 seems shared between my levels 5 and 6, with the last level being the same. Slight different focus but I found it interesting;
Now if we'd both bothered to use the actual color spectrum ordering of colours it would have been more interesting
I crossed referenced it to my more general human 'development' diagram (which is best case for age) and I think it fit's quite nicely. Though mine has 7 steps and that has 6.
I think the first 3 levels are a 1 for 1 match, but level 4 seems shared between my levels 5 and 6, with the last level being the same. Slight different focus but I found it interesting;
Now if we'd both bothered to use the actual color spectrum ordering of colours it would have been more interesting

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07 Mar 2014 06:46 #140637
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I believe I'm between stage four and five in the left column, and in the last stage on the right column. 
I love things like this.

I love things like this.
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07 Mar 2014 10:43 #140644
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Part of the seduction of most religions is the idea that if you just say the right things and believe really hard, your salvation will be at hand.
With Jediism. No one is coming to save you. You have to get off your ass and do it yourself - Me
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depends on the day of the week and hour of the day for me!
Walking, stumbling on these shadowfeet
Part of the seduction of most religions is the idea that if you just say the right things and believe really hard, your salvation will be at hand.
With Jediism. No one is coming to save you. You have to get off your ass and do it yourself - Me
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07 Mar 2014 11:38 #140645
by Jestor
On walk-about...
Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....
"Bake or bake not. There is no fry" - Sean Ching
Rite: PureLand
Former Memeber of the TOTJO Council
Master: Jasper_Ward
Current Apprentices: Viskhard, DanWerts, Llama Su, Trisskar
Former Apprentices: Knight Learn_To_Know, Knight Edan, Knight Brenna, Knight Madhatter
Replied by Jestor on topic "Stages of Faith"
Of course, besides the over simplification of some charts/graphs such as Steamboat's link...
There's Adder's post which goes the other way, :lol:.....
There's Adder's post which goes the other way, :lol:.....
On walk-about...
Sith ain't Evil...
Jedi ain't Saints....
"Bake or bake not. There is no fry" - Sean Ching
Rite: PureLand
Former Memeber of the TOTJO Council
Master: Jasper_Ward
Current Apprentices: Viskhard, DanWerts, Llama Su, Trisskar
Former Apprentices: Knight Learn_To_Know, Knight Edan, Knight Brenna, Knight Madhatter
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09 Mar 2014 14:18 #140845
by Ben
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Ooo, I like this! Not the chart/scale itself so much as the...trying to spot oneself on it. It's an interesting exercise in trying to work out whether you see yourself as you truly are or whether you have delusions of spiritual grandeur... :laugh:
I'd like to think that I'm a stage 5. But, in reality I'm not sure that I'm fully out of stage 4. I'm undergoing a massive personal rejection of Christianity at the moment, which is sometimes embarrassingly teenager-like in its rebelliousness. I think also that it's possible to regress along the scale, or possibly to do parts of it in a cycle. I think that maybe 2-4 could be repeated over and over again, by someone who keeps throwing themselves into new belief systems. Like Adder, I'm therefore not convinced that these stages necessarily correspond to age in the way that is implied in the chart.
I'd like to think that I'm a stage 5. But, in reality I'm not sure that I'm fully out of stage 4. I'm undergoing a massive personal rejection of Christianity at the moment, which is sometimes embarrassingly teenager-like in its rebelliousness. I think also that it's possible to regress along the scale, or possibly to do parts of it in a cycle. I think that maybe 2-4 could be repeated over and over again, by someone who keeps throwing themselves into new belief systems. Like Adder, I'm therefore not convinced that these stages necessarily correspond to age in the way that is implied in the chart.
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09 Mar 2014 16:28 #140851
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This was interesting to me, coming from a secular background. Most of my secular friends are very much at Stage 3 and tend to reinforce their position there, and it'll be interesting to see if any move on to Stage 4 over the next few decades.
I'd have to put myself at stage 4-5 transition as well. I think the nature of Jediism means a lot of us will be there. We acknowledge that no one path can take us to every destination.. we understand that synthesis is often preferable, and that even then we won't find an answer for absolutely everything.
Interesting link, thanks for sharing it!
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The basic theory can be applied, not only to those in traditional faiths, but those who follow alternative spiritualities or secular worldviews as well
This was interesting to me, coming from a secular background. Most of my secular friends are very much at Stage 3 and tend to reinforce their position there, and it'll be interesting to see if any move on to Stage 4 over the next few decades.
I'd have to put myself at stage 4-5 transition as well. I think the nature of Jediism means a lot of us will be there. We acknowledge that no one path can take us to every destination.. we understand that synthesis is often preferable, and that even then we won't find an answer for absolutely everything.
Interesting link, thanks for sharing it!
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