Anger

Author Echkart Tolls refers to something in his book "the Power of Now," he calls the "pain body." He describes our relation with it as similar to that of a parasitic-host relationship. Much of the population actually lives most of their lives through this pain body, identifying with it in such a way that it becomes their core identity, thus they cannot perceive living without it. The pain body is built up of previous painful memories accumulated over the span of ones life, and is the source of most, if not all issues related to anger.

The hardest challenge with the pain body, is that it feeds on negative emotions which I'm turn create negative energy. Once it starts, it wants more, and if the individual is not at all aware, it can easily take control of the individual and feed itself by causing more situations that cause pain. If not checked, it will continue to seek more sources of pain to sustain itself, even to the point of destroying its "host." Its very essence is vampiric in nature, it is all consuming.

As a former Sith I can relate to it, you give into it, and it rewards you with pleasure so you're more inclined to feed it continually, until you can no longer give it what it wants, and then you become the main course.

Shinzen wrote: Author Echkart Tolls refers to something in his book "the Power of Now," he calls the "pain body." He describes our relation with it as similar to that of a parasitic-host relationship. Much of the population actually lives most of their lives through this pain body, identifying with it in such a way that it becomes their core identity, thus they cannot perceive living without it. The pain body is built up of previous painful memories accumulated over the span of ones life, and is the source of most, if not all issues related to anger.

The hardest challenge with the pain body, is that it feeds on negative emotions which I'm turn create negative energy. Once it starts, it wants more, and if the individual is not at all aware, it can easily take control of the individual and feed itself by causing more situations that cause pain. If not checked, it will continue to seek more sources of pain to sustain itself, even to the point of destroying its "host." Its very essence is vampiric in nature, it is all consuming.

As a former Sith I can relate to it, you give into it, and it rewards you with pleasure so you're more inclined to feed it continually, until you can no longer give it what it wants, and then you become the main course.

the tail wagging the dog. . .

There is nothing "wrong" with any emotion. They all exist for reasons and they all have their place in shaping us and our worlds. Anger is a tool, the problems arise when you express it vs communicate it. Not allowing your emotions to take over is what those selections from the creed are about. The emotion comes, you can't stop that, but you can wait and process it, and find a neutral way of communicating it, and there is the peace. The passion comes, you must let it, but then let it pass before you express it, there is the serenity.
It's just about waiting one more second.

I think Stella may be on to something.

I see all the emotions as being energetic and the more the emotion the more energy developed or used from it. When we are very angry and then calm down we become very tired. When we are very happy we begin to bounce off the walls and have a hard time slowing down.

Some emotions create; some emotions use energy. It probably varies from person to person and by their personal views.

MagnusD wrote: the guy you've been trying to help for the past 20 mins as he becomes increasingly abusive. Anger. Desire to punch said individual.

Surly in this situation emotional control is vital (as well as impulse control, of course!)

I think a lot of times people see their emotions as solid objects they can “control.” How I have viewed emotions is very much like how we my view electricity. You don’t pick it up and move it or stop it persay, but you can open paths for it to follow. Get from point ”A” to point ”B.” People will argue that this is controlling the energy but I see it as offering other paths. We control our choices to an extent. If we are angry, it is our choice to act or not to act.

As to things being vital… there is great importance in all that we do. From the smallest common task to the most ambitious dream each is equally important. As we realize this it becomes easier to be clear in our choices no matter how much emotional energy surrounds the situation.

When I was in therapy years ago, my therapist encouraged me to feel all my emotions but not to necessarily act upon them. As a consequence, much repressed anger, as well as other emotions, surfaced. It took much self-control to feel the emotion and not act on it. But eventually I processed the repressed emotion, especially anger. Now I do not suppress emotions like anger. I simply feel them until they dissipate. Again, it takes self-control but that is something any individual can master.

MagnusD wrote:

Rickie The Grey wrote:

MagnusD wrote: I would pose a question, in response.

What does the doctrine of this Order say, and what can we learn from this?

Look it up?

I could have (in fact I did) but that hardly generates further discussion!

It's working.

Wescli Wardest wrote: I think a lot of times people see their emotions as solid objects they can “control.” How I have viewed emotions is very much like how we my view electricity. You don’t pick it up and move it or stop it persay, but you can open paths for it to follow. Get from point ”A” to point ”B.” People will argue that this is controlling the energy but I see it as offering other paths. We control our choices to an extent. If we are angry, it is our choice to act or not to act.

I think you're right. Cause when anger comes I feel very strong and if I let it out I feel very tired. So I think anger is not bad because of this huge amount of energy. We just have to, as Wescli said, close and open paths for it, so we can use it for our benefit. Like when you want to punch someone or something. You concentrate that energy into your arm. That's why I don't think that anything would be bad that we have. We just have to learn how to use it.

Stella wrote:

Wescli Wardest wrote: I think a lot of times people see their emotions as solid objects they can “control.” How I have viewed emotions is very much like how we my view electricity. You don’t pick it up and move it or stop it persay, but you can open paths for it to follow. Get from point ”A” to point ”B.” People will argue that this is controlling the energy but I see it as offering other paths. We control our choices to an extent. If we are angry, it is our choice to act or not to act.

I think you're right. Cause when anger comes I feel very strong and if I let it out I feel very tired. So I think anger is not bad because of this huge amount of energy. We just have to, as Wescli said, close and open paths for it, so we can use it for our benefit. Like when you want to punch someone or something. You concentrate that energy into your arm. That's why I don't think that anything would be bad that we have. We just have to learn how to use it.

I don't think its nearly as simple as that, learning to just tap into it is not enough for most people .If it's a recurring issue, it's root first and foremost needs to be identified. Can anger be used for positive ends, of course. Putting it to use without it causing psychological harm is something else entirely...

Heres a visual guide to how your body produces heat during different emotions...along the lines of this whole energy thing.

http://www.boredpanda.com/emotion-heatmap-body-atlas/

Shinzen wrote: I don't think its nearly as simple as that, learning to just tap into it is not enough for most people .If it's a recurring issue, it's root first and foremost needs to be identified. Can anger be used for positive ends, of course. Putting it to use without it causing psychological harm is something else entirely...

Yeah, I may be wrong, but when I found out things about life I was like "these are so simple, how can I not thought of that". So in my opinion, yes, it's that simple. The way getting there is the difficult thing. Forgeting what we have already learned is never easy.