Violence and Video Games.

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06 Jun 2013 12:05 #108568 by Wescli Wardest
I don’t know that I wish we had less violence…

I wish people had more self control and personal accountability! No matter how “desensitized” to violence we become, being aware of what is actually happening, self control and personal accountability should help people not make the “wrong” decision.

I also think that the violence found in videogames is usually identified by people that have never obtained their own food or served in the military. People say, “We are not a violent society anymore.” But we still eat… animals have to die for that to happen and someone has to do it. People enjoy the freedom to set around and complain about the stuff they see. But they would not have those freedoms without someone out there willing to be violent on their behalf.

Speed, surprise and violence of action… these tools are taught to all Rangers and that is how it is taught.

Realistic violence in videogames, slaughter an animal some time and tell me if the blood and guts in the game look the same. And the death scenes in the games when people fly apart spraying blood everywhere… yah, it’s not usually like that. They usually just stagger and drop or drop right away and then they leak out bodily fluids.

And I don’t know about anyone else, but I don’t remember grenades creating a fireball that blossomed into a mushroom cloud! Where were those grenades when I was in the service? Hahahahaha :woohoo:

I am not saying that we are not affected by games, but merely proposing that those who spend the most time complaining about it have skewed views of reality.

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06 Jun 2013 17:10 #108595 by RyuJin
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Violence breeds violence, but only in the uneducated, unstable types...it is a combination of nurture, mental stability, and environment that guides an individual, however the individual still has to choose their actions...anytime a choice is made there are repercussions to be considered...I was abused and bullied as a young child, I was a social outcast as a teenager...I have every reason to be a bitter, violent hateful person....and yet I'm not....why? Because I CHOOSE not to be...I'm not some sniveling whiny coward moaning about how unfair life is, wishing to kill everyone for my suffering and blaming video games, movies, and tv shows for my own inability to distinguish right from wrong....

Yes those forms of entertainment depict the negative aspects of human behavior, but so did the ancient greek tragedies...so do most of shakespeares works...no one is blaming romeo and juliet for the rise of teen suicide...no one is blaming hamlet for a rise in patricide/matricide...we know those as works of fiction, just like video games are works of fiction...no matter how realistic they may be...just because I live near a nudist colony doesn't mean I'm going to CHOOSE to run around stark naked and blame the nudists when I get arrested for indecent exposure...

People need to learn to ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS AND STOP BLAMING EVERYONE AND EVERYTHING ELSE!

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06 Jun 2013 17:47 #108603 by rugadd
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On desensitizing ourselves to violence, in my Gong Fu classes we did exercises for this purpose. Not only in iron body training, to both harden and desensitize our bodies, but in sparring to desensitize ourselves from the normal reactions we have to being struck or to be in a circumstance were you have to strike someone. It helps us think more rationally in a situation that the body usually takes over. Negative things can be used to positive effect.

If these games are affecting us so much, would we be better able to handle something like a home invasion or being assaulted?

Personally, I don't consider it the same thing but I would be interested here other opinions...

Also, this all might just be public training for neuro-integrated satellite controlled killer robots. Or drones to the laymen.

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06 Jun 2013 17:58 #108606 by Wescli Wardest

rugadd wrote: Also, this all might just be public training for neuro-integrated satellite controlled killer robots. Or drones to the laymen.


hahahhahhahhaha :woohoo: the ultimate videogame/military! Woop woop to the nation that gets that tech on the front lines first!

hahahhahahhahha :woohoo: :silly: :cheer: :P

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07 Jun 2013 14:22 #108647 by
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do those who play already have violent tendencies which draw them to violent games?


Exactly. Violence is not somehow imbued upon the players (I happen to be one, and I'm not violent in the least). I personally find FPS games to be a form of stress relief.

People talk about this stuff like murders are something new. There hasn't been more violence in society with the increase of violence in games, movies, TV shows, etc. These crimes have been taking place for thousands of years. The difference is that we have the media to tell us about everything going on around the world. In other words, the world just seems worse because we know about it. Back before 24-hour news channels we didn't get this kind of exposure.

How about Hitler? Jack the ripper? Charles Manson? What was their excuse? They didn't have violent media to supposedly feed their violent nature. They were born evil. And that doesn't include the millions of other sociopaths that have lived who didn't have any exposure to violent media, all throughout history.

Take away violent video games and watch the real-world violence continue.

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09 Jun 2013 05:51 #108734 by
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I don't believe violent video games breed violence. When I was a kid my sisters and I would play violent games all the time. None of us are killers...I don't think so anyways, I mean it's possible one of them has gone all Dexter on me, but I don't think so :P In fact, many of my siblings have gone into the medical field. Instead of trying to kill people they're trying to fix 'em up!

You can play violent video games everyday and be a well adjusted person. You can listen to Marilyn Manson. You can watch every horror flick ever made. None of that will magically turn a person into a killing machine.

What it can do is maybe suggest those things, but it's up to the individual to choose what to dwell on. I mean, if we can't have violent video games then can we still have the news? Because the news is pretty god awful and blood thirsty sometimes. Sensationalism!

The world is violent...just look at mother nature. Instead of trying to squash it/bury it how about embracing it. Teach how the world works - Lion eats antelope. Show the public how our food is actually made. And then give kids a chance to participate in a martial art or other "violent" activity. We can show people that we can "fight" without actually hurting anybody. Because mankind has always had the urge to conquer or best each other...which is probably why football, boxing, and other sports are so popular. You can defeat your opponents army without actually killing anybody.

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09 Jun 2013 11:08 #108742 by rugadd
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I was thinking about this and I do recall really getting into eating my peas as a child after playing Pacman...

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09 Jun 2013 14:46 - 09 Jun 2013 14:47 #108747 by
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Wescli Wardest wrote:
I use to play a lot of "violent" video games. Counter Strike, Battle field 1942 just to name a few. For me, they were a great release and I felt better after playing them. But, I did notice the addictive effect they had. I would start playing and not want to stop.

Granted, I was a much angrier person then too. Did I play because my life had desensitized me to violence already; I am naturally a violent person; violence was the only way I knew how to deal with stress... who knows!


i think this is all ridiculous, if something on games is bad, its the escape they provide and the competitive atmosphere which most likely for majority will at one point raise aggression due feeling oneself as incompetent.

the violence itself.. its like watching kids show if youve grown up to it, in fact i regard action movies as more, MUCH more childish than watching a tv show with pink ponies in a friendly world. since violence is brainless, short term pleasure, but watching a show such as my little pony requires a philosophical mind to truly grasp their teachings, so yes i would say violence shows are perhaps even better for kids than what is actually made for them.

these days the reason why i actually dont like gaming anyomore is because i cant take the competitive atmosphere, i just want everything to be relaaxed! =3

especially since western culture is already so competitive, then escaping it into even more competition can only be a bad thing. i think what we really need are games with friendly atmosphere like minecraft.

surely this competitive atmosphere might be too much for some to bear, which isnt surprising then at all that there are school shootings. and i think the culture should be blamed accordingly, and games just being a manifestation of that competitive culture.
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09 Jun 2013 15:04 - 09 Jun 2013 15:09 #108748 by
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I do not believe the video games themselves are to blame personaly ive played some pretty sinister games which include but are not limited to the following resident evil played three in the series doom 3 silent hill both 2 and 4 :sh 4 is pretty ghraphic: quite a few war based 3d shooters and only about a half a dozen other horror survival and war based games but heres the thing I realise these games are fake ei only games mental health issues usually are the cause of gamers who go on killing sprees and if you look at statistics many of these cases are un addressed either because someone doesn't think they have a problem or because they cannot afford help the real issues behind this is that people need to somehow be made aware of the symptoms of such illnesses and help for said issues needs to be more available to those who need it once we stop blaming the games, music or other inanimate objects we help those who need it instead of targeting life less things as the culprit
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12 Jun 2013 16:22 - 12 Jun 2013 16:24 #109171 by
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Video games are not violent, they are just code laying on a hard disk.
Frank Zappa (a composer and musician) used to say : A drug is not bad. A drug is a chemical compound. The problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole.

It's the same with games. We must not mistake the tool for the user (i think i read that on this site).
What if someone use "violent" games as an exutory to release his anger ? is it "dark side" ? I don't think so.
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