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Larrus wrote: Contrary to what everyone believes, the metaphysical is just as important, if not more important, than the physical.

The metaphysical vs physical distinction is a false dichotomy.

There is only our natural world, and nothing more.

All things labeled as metaphysical or supernatural, if they do indeed exist or occur are not supernatural at all, but purely physical and natural phenomenon.

A few hundred years ago you would have been considered insane if you said you could use invisible waves to talk to someone miles away through walls and forests even.

If you demonstrated this and proved it you'd be burned at the stake as witch.

We all know radiowaves aren't supernatural or metaphysical.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
-Arthur C. Clarke

The metaphysical vs physical distinction is a false dichotomy.

YES YES YES YES THIS THIS THIS!!!!!

maynoth wrote: The metaphysical vs physical distinction is a false dichotomy.

There is only our natural world, and nothing more.

All things labeled as metaphysical or supernatural, if they do indeed exist or occur are not supernatural at all, but purely physical and natural phenomenon.

A few hundred years ago you would have considered insane if you said you could use invisible waves to talk to someone miles away through walls and forests even.

If you demonstrated this and proved it you'd be burned at the stake as witch.

We all know radiowaves aren't supernatural or metaphysical.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
-Arthur C. Clarke

Well said. And I have heard that quote before, but I could never remember who said it.
Thank you.

Master Jestor, I only meant that in the context of the general population, not of the Jedi population. I apologize for the misconception.

Maynoth, I agree with you completely, and there may come a time when the "supernatural" and "metaphysical" of today will become the science of tomorrow, but as a general rule (from what I've seen of mankind), people need something larger than themselves to believe in, whether it be boogeymen, ghosts, God, or aliens.

Jestor wrote: "The Jedi Compass"?

We call ourselves Jedi, which would be a common starting point...

Say the center of the compass...

But we fan out in many different directions from that point...

“Conscience is a man's compass.”
~Vincent van Gogh~

That is BRILLIANT!!!

I like the compass idea, as well, since we all start out at a certain point, and radiate outward in different directions as stated by our individual Paths. Brilliant idea, Master Jestor.

Larrus wrote: people need something larger than themselves to believe in

Man is destined to achieve Godhood. I want to see us evolve. To realize our ultimate potential.

I don't get along with most spiritual type people because for me real spirituality is science and vice versa.

I believe in what I see, experience, and understand first hand, by my own observations, that's enough for me.

Alethea Thompson wrote:

Jestor wrote: "The Jedi Compass"?

We call ourselves Jedi, which would be a common starting point...

Say the center of the compass...

But we fan out in many different directions from that point...

“Conscience is a man's compass.”
~Vincent van Gogh~

That is BRILLIANT!!!

Jestor's really awesome! We should all eat more cookies so we can be as smart as him.

Maynoth- I'm curious as to whether or not, when you make the statement that your practice is completely scientific- if this is what you were referring to. And if so- why the **** didn't you ever make THIS STATEMENT in the past?

Alethea Thompson wrote: Maynoth- I'm curious as to whether or not, when you make the statement that your practice is completely scientific- if this is what you were referring to. And if so- why the **** didn't you ever make THIS STATEMENT in the past?

I have many times, no one listens lol.

I believe in what you can see and experience first hand, not having faith in some unknown whatever.

The sects I study are sciences in the purest sense of the word.

Thousands of human guinea pigs have died testing out different methods, to find what worked and what didn't.

Theories were built upon observations, and refined over generations. Tested and refined and retested.

Faith doesn't factor into it at all.



"Science without Religion Is Lame, Religion without Science Is Blind"

-Albert Einstein