The Secret

Let me tell you something:

When you accept God's love into your heart, you are accepted into the kingdom of Heaven.

Most people will say: "Ok, I accept Jesus". And, they don't change anything about themselves.

That kind of pisses me off because you haven't REALLY accepted Jesus. You have simply said you did, because you are still the same person.

The Secret is similar. If you just say: "Give me."
Nada is gonna happen...

But, if you sincerely change because of your request. If you allow your ENERGY frequencies to vibrate higher and use the statement as a means of energetic transmogrification: YOU WIN.

Same with accepting Jesus from the Judeo-Christian viewpoint. It should literally change everything about you.

Im not entirely sure I agree.

When for instance "accepting Gods love" i would expect a profound change, much like would happen with anyone who makes a decision to change the way that they live and the beliefs that they have.

I dont think the law of attraction requires profound or permanent change, i think it only needs focus for the period of time that it takes to realise the goal, or acquisition.

I hate to rain on everyone's parade here but the secret is the same as the placebo effect. You can give someone a pill and tell them it will make them feel better and they believe you and feel better... the pill has nothing to do with it.

I would also like to mention that what Jesus said completely contradicts 99% of Christianity and American/Western culture.

[ Mark 10:21-22] Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, "You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me." When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.

[Matthew 6:24.] You cannot serve both God and Money.

So, this is something i should read for sure then, or is it kind of already wrapped into the initiates program and any other general studies close to the program?

Brenna wrote: I dont think the law of attraction requires profound or permanent change, i think it only needs focus for the period of time that it takes to realise the goal, or acquisition.

I'm not talking about that specific goal, though. I'm talking about the process of accepting a system like the Law of Attraction in the first place. You have to make the shift to believing in energetic vibration changes, AND you have to use those power phrases to get what you want. I imagine that it could take a moral shift as well.

Whyte Horse wrote: I hate to rain on everyone's parade here but the secret is the same as the placebo effect.

First, I wasn't trying to compare Christianity to the Secret. Just the idea of permanent change.
Second, regarding your statement above, you can't know that. If you have scientific evidence that it's placebo, I'd love to see it. There haven't been scientific studies on my end, so I couldn't show you those... BUT, I'm not asserting that it's most definitely "not" the placebo effect.

Placebo effect, repackaged, does it matter?

We don't all learn the same way, different ways of delivering a similar/same/or repackaged message can "flip the switch"...

I Have no clue what "the secret" is, I don't remember reading it, nor watching it, so now I guess ill have to, lol...

Ryan Julius, read what has been said...

Make your own decision...

Scott, do you think that that list you provided is original? They were the first?

I Know you don't, but, your list is repackaged too...

And not necessarily the best choices for all, just sayin'...

Although, im a fan of James Allen...

Placebo effect.....sounds like the opinions from someone who obviously hasn't taken the time to test it, anyone who wants confirmation whether it truly works or not should read the book (with an open mind) and take time to put it to the test. My own experimentations with the Secret and its results can be found in my journal here.

Exactly, Zenchi! I will go read your experiments.

Jestor wrote: I Have no clue what "the secret" is, I don't remember reading it, nor watching it, so now I guess ill have to, lol...

The secret (if I understood the book correctly) is about the power of your mind/thoughts/emotions. That whatever you fixate on will eventually manifest itself in your life.

It's a pretty good read and I'd suggest looking into it, for anyone who is curious. Of course, like it's been said before, you can also find that message in other works. It's not new, but it's a good reminder. And some of the people who helped contribute to the book have some good ideas and materials of their own.

Like Michael Beckwith. Some of his stuff is a little out there and too mushy for me, but when you cut through it all there are some really great messages. Common sense that had been forgotten, so to speak.