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Stop population growth you save the world. :whistle: yer right on : ) and its ok because the government has found a cool way to help us : ) depopulate

chem trails : ) were going to be fine :whistle:

I wont get to deep into the population thing(I do that enough as it is ). How ever it doesn't matter what the Government (U.S. I'm guessing) does if the rest of the world doesn't do the same. An example would be all the wars and plagues we've had yet here we are 7 billion strong.

yep if you put your finger in a bucket of water and pull it out, see how fast the hole closes, i find life forms fill the gaps very fast as well. max child is a good thing to look into it helped me understand more.

how do you think we can depopulate ? humanly and with consent ? maybe we can work something out ?

Agreed. I find the 5 fruit a day thing most confusing. It's supposed to be 5 "portions", but how big are the portions? How many calories/sugars should each portion contain? I really have a hard time working out how to eat 5 fruits and not go over the sugar RDA.

Edan wrote: The cup is the most confusing unit ever; since who knows which measurement the person is talking about.

Generally health advice is rubbish because, say, women are supposed to have 2000 calories a day (or so the government tells us) and while I'm probably close to 'average', if I ate that many calories every day I'd be overweight in a month or so.

And the '5 a day' that we get told about, just seems to be some random number picked out of thin air.

ren wrote: the cup is only an official unit in two countries. Everywhere else uses metric now. Some use the metric cup as 250mil, those are usually the countries that had their own standard, which roughly varies from 200 to 300 mil.

US law bases cups on millilitres too, FDA stuff uses a cup = 240mil but most people use the old cup = half US pint.

8 imperial cups are 9.6 US cups. (2.27 litres). Since when it comes to health advice, everything is based on women, 8 and 9 cups represent the kind of advice you normally get from government, which is meaningless if you're not an average size female with an average diet, average health living in average weather.

Analyze wrote: how do you think we can depopulate ? humanly and with consent ? maybe we can work something out ?

There is no way global population controls can be achieved in sufficient time to avoid overpopulation. So as unromantic as it sounds... migration to space, else an asteroid will clean us up one day. Not an easy task and while I'd like to say the quicker we start the less damage will be done to our home, tech advances could make waiting a better option, but waiting for what.... anti-gravity and teleportation would be good LOL
:S
Volcanic cave's are great places to hide, warm water and trippy fumes, but they eventually get overcrowded or start shaking and then its a good time to leave the cave.

It's interesting to know if human's have some spiritual 'need' to stay here, but I think the biggest issues would be psychological - and virtual reality computing could eventually handle recreating higher fidelity reality then actually being here.... just that question of spirit perhaps!!

Adder wrote:

Analyze wrote: how do you think we can depopulate ? humanly and with consent ? maybe we can work something out ?

There is no way global population controls can be achieved in sufficient time to avoid overpopulation. So as unromantic as it sounds... migration to space, else an asteroid will clean us up one day.

Adders right there is no fast way to avoid over population because we're already over populated. In any case, space or not, it doesn't look good. :dry: The ability to go into space would only further the problem.

Staying on topic with water(or trying to at least). If we make a set number of food we'll get a set number of people. Yes some people will starve but it will allow us to control our spices and our water consumption.
Some of you might say "Well I cant let people starve". People that have a ruler complex cant let things happen. Its the Force(God) that lets things happen not us. So we either control our water usage and one fast way is to stop making more farms. Or we overpopulate and we all die any way. :dry:

humm adder you are a right peace of work mate, i want to kiss you : ) man your pic just looks like a normal dude, how did you get all that in your head ? love it all of it, i need to rethink my view of the ozzy male : ) and beer : )


Daniel L.

one problem about us running out of water......... where can it all go ??? its all stuck here we use it, still stays on earth.
i still think we will be ok.

The ability to go into space would only further the problem. ? i dont think so we can send water back here as well, when the sun gets so big, we start losing water to space.

i do agree we're already over populated. if there were just 1000 people in the UK 10 000 in the USA and so on
well we would want for nothing. we wouldn't need food shops or farms. : )

Analyze wrote: Stop population growth you save the world. :whistle: yer right on : ) and its ok because the government has found a cool way to help us : ) depopulate

chem trails : ) were going to be fine :whistle:

It always amuses me how people think the world can be saved, when in reality it is and has always been past hope. Even if humanity depopulates to the point that there is enough resources for all the people of the world to live with their fundamental needs being met, there is still the eventual destruction of the planet at the point when our sun expands; bakes the planet; and then explodes.

And even assuming we as a species make it off the planet before this happens and colonize other worlds, there is the risk of us running into some other hostile alien race, or developing hostilities with a peaceful race when we try to force them off the worlds and territories they inhabit.

Disregarding that risk, there is the eventuality that in time, even if we keep our population controlled on other worlds, the same life cycle that earth followed will be followed by those planets. Those world's stars will expand, bake the planet, and then explode, either destroying the world in the process or placing it in eternal darkness.

Eventually, humanity would run out of worlds to run to, and would either be left somehow living in spacecraft which would in time break down and cease to function; killing all on board, or become extinct as a result of having nowhere else to run.

So really, its just a matter of timed obsolescence for our race. The notion that we can survive forever is really quite egotistical on the part of the believer considering all the factors I have just mentioned. It may take billions upon billions or even trillions upon trillions of years for this to happen if we colonize other worlds and solve our societal problems that already place our race in danger, but eventually we will become extinct - one way or another.

World population projection is a tricky thing. There are several factors to take into consideration. Birthrate, medical care, education, social structure, sanitation… the list goes on and on.



A few key factors to look at are wars. Given world population in industrialized countries was kept in check after the industrial revolution by world conflict, non-industrialized countries have not had such limiting factors on population growth.



Given trends of mortality rates vs. birth rates, population is projected to reach an apex in the next 40 -50 years or so.



UN demographers currently offer eight variant projections for the future, with the median (just over 9 - 10 billion) being the most cited. All projections are conditional assessments based on current numbers, age structure and trends and reasonable assumptions about the future.



The problem I see is available resources vs. population… I fear that once the apex is reached, it will be because the non-industrial countries will no longer be able to support the population even with outside aide. And this in turn will create an alarming drop in world population.

Kohadre wrote:

Analyze wrote: Stop population growth you save the world. :whistle: yer right on : ) and its ok because the government has found a cool way to help us : ) depopulate

chem trails : ) were going to be fine :whistle:

It always amuses me how people think the world can be saved, when in reality it is and has always been past hope. Even if humanity depopulates to the point that there is enough resources for all the people of the world to live with their fundamental needs being met, there is still the eventual destruction of the planet at the point when our sun expands; bakes the planet; and then explodes.

And even assuming we as a species make it off the planet before this happens and colonize other worlds, there is the risk of us running into some other hostile alien race, or developing hostilities with a peaceful race when we try to force them off the worlds and territories they inhabit.

Disregarding that risk, there is the eventuality that in time, even if we keep our population controlled on other worlds, the same life cycle that earth followed will be followed by those planets. Those world's stars will expand, bake the planet, and then explode, either destroying the world in the process or placing it in eternal darkness.

Eventually, humanity would run out of worlds to run to, and would either be left somehow living in spacecraft which would in time break down and cease to function; killing all on board, or become extinct as a result of having nowhere else to run.

So really, its just a matter of timed obsolescence for our race. The notion that we can survive forever is really quite egotistical on the part of the believer considering all the factors I have just mentioned. It may take billions upon billions or even trillions upon trillions of years for this to happen if we colonize other worlds and solve our societal problems that already place our race in danger, but eventually we will become extinct - one way or another.

hay dont worry about the sun getting to big and burning the earth

The Andromeda Galaxy will smash into us way before LOL and if we do get of this rock you will always have tribbles
if you run out of wadell dees Kohadre : ) hahaha so light one for me :whistle: