Past lives, seriously?

if it was pre-scripted, then why could people go crazy? i think its experience based and thats why our unconscious mind can turn against us if we get too much of negative experiences, which then in turn corrupt our guiding force, the unconscious.

I said people play parts in our stiries as well...

Maybe their story is to know the truth, and not be able to tell us...

Maybe, it is to teach us...

Who can say?

There is the fine line between genius snd insane...

Desolous wrote: too vague...archetypes!

Sorry about that. Some believe archetypes come from our past lives. If not from our own individual past lives then from source of knowledge from a collective past lives.

As long as we pass on our life forces we pass on, like a candle flame from one candle to another, this knowledge via the living force unique to our DNA, human beings, but not limited by DNA just as our living force is not limited by DNA.

better?

Jestor wrote: I said people play parts in our stiries as well...

Maybe their story is to know the truth, and not be able to tell us...

Maybe, it is to teach us...

Who can say?

There is the fine line between genius snd insane...

I think I fall nearer the later of that one Jestor!

hahahahhahahha :woohoo:

Either I've got a wierd imagination or my earliest memory is the moment before I was born
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So I've no idea on this topic, but I do approach it by looking at things which cause unexplained emotional responses, and then try to link them together to get an idea what might be going on. It's a risky approach though perhaps, because those very same feelings might be some subconscious sensitivity to other things around me, otherwise unseen, like the Force etc.

i have had the same experience Adder.

you can believe in whatever you like, the truth is, there is no way to test it an prove it, like many other things.

For some people the theory of re-born, and re-born, many times as needed till something is accomplished, its their truth, and they live in that way...
for others, it's a matter of one life, you die, and go to heaven/hell, and that's all

and, also others believe, we are energy, and this, never die/disappear, it just transform ... in what, who, or ??? who really knows...

faith
believe.

Faith and believe. If it works for you it works. What ever gives you strength an feeds your spirit.

Buddhism is big on reincarnation. It's a metaphor for how your deeds go on long after you've died.

The man that trained me to use the katana believed that the universe chose certain souls to be reborn because they had something the universe needed....he often referred to them as "old souls"....he called me one...because of the way I think and act ...

I think it's a possibility that some are reborn and some are not...my reasoning is because of prodigies....I've seen some people with innate talent/ abilities far beyond their own understanding ...talent/abilities that take others a lifetime to master they have mastery of without ever being taught....and at this very moment I'm having a serious case of deja vu....

ive been told the same

Death is the one lesson we all take, only then will we know for certain what happens after...

RyuJin wrote: The man that trained me to use the katana believed that the universe chose certain souls to be reborn because they had something the universe needed....he often referred to them as "old souls"....he called me one...because of the way I think and act ...

I think it's a possibility that some are reborn and some are not...my reasoning is because of prodigies....I've seen some people with innate talent/ abilities far beyond their own understanding ...talent/abilities that take others a lifetime to master they have mastery of without ever being taught....and at this very moment I'm having a serious case of deja vu....

those things are explainable by personality type, as each type has its strong suits which it will learn by itself very efficiently, while for those without it takes ages. i for one am a person who has that strong suit in self learning, which in advance means i mature quicker than avarege person which then leaves people calling me an old soul, and utilizing those abilities i can maser skills quicker than others, like in one game i was the very best of all players on the globe,(because i learned the game quicker than anyone else.) and now im utilizing those skills for music. my plan is to become the most emotional musician, and i dont think its a far fetch considering playing music plays by my strengths.

and dejavu is explained by the impossibility of same kind of feelings not occuring. cause theres so many chances, thus its bound to repeat itself at occasions.

if people tried to teach me, they would only stray, distract me from learning at my own pace and rhythm which is rather quick.

"What you may call a trash can I call a rubbish bin"

From the looks of it Vilku you're very set on your opinion everything can be explained "psychologically" as to why people are the way they are.

I don't disagree with that idea...but that being said there is always exceptions to everything...always...not everything can be explained by science...not everything can be explained by hope...

Metsu Desal wrote: "What you may call a trash can I call a rubbish bin"

From the looks of it Vilku you're very set on your opinion everything can be explained "psychologically" as to why people are the way they are.

I don't disagree with that idea...but that being said there is always exceptions to everything...always...not everything can be explained by science...not everything can be explained by hope...

hm.. i think yes, everything can be explained rationally, but whether im capable of it always or not, the answer is not. not always, no.. i do am left baffled by some people who i cant seem to type psychologically, but theres even a one specific type of people whom always give this reaction to me. until i recognize they are that type of people.

i think my perspective on reality is very much an analytical one, where everything has a reason.

i guess hope is synonymous with rationality and reason in my mind.

Vilku wrote: if people tried to teach me, they would only stray, distract me from learning at my own pace and rhythm which is rather quick.

Then they weren't good teachers in the first place.
They would have adapted to your speed of learning and would have told you to slow down a bit anyway. Because learnig is more about quality, not quantity.

i think my perspective on reality is very much an analytical one, where everything has a reason.

i guess hope is synonymous with rationality and reason in my mind.

Then you may fall victim to a reductionism which has influence on the quality of your actions. All humans are motivated by feelings and emotions. The only question is, if they are conscious or not. I guess you also follow your idea of scientific logic because "it gives you something", right?

Bastian wrote:

Vilku wrote:

RyuJin wrote: if people tried to teach me, they would only stray, distract me from learning at my own pace and rhythm which is rather quick.

Then they weren't good teachers in the first place.
They would have adapted to your speed of learning and would have told you to slow down a bit anyway. Because learnig is more about quality, not quantity.

neh, i think its all about quantity. quality comes by itself, uncosnciousness takes good care of it for me.

if i just do plenty of things, im bound to learn plenty cause thats just the way my mind works.

i dont think there is such a thing to learning as quality. you just learn things, they are like 0's and 1's, just pickets of information ordered differently. theres no way it can be ordered with less quality, when theres just that one way its supposed to be ordered which is the only way its ordered correctly in. you just strive to order it in that one specific way, by whatever method you find the quickest.

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Then you may fall victim to a reductionism which has influence on the quality of your actions. All humans are motivated by feelings and emotions. The only question is, if they are conscious or not. I guess you also follow your idea of scientific logic because "it gives you something", right?"

i think feelings are rational, their purpose is to guide us to the options which best benefit the individual, in one way or another, but feelings are based on logic so they still require a clear stream of information to act upon, or else all will perish.

dont think there is such a thing to learning as quality. you just learn things, they are like 0's and 1's, just pickets of information ordered differently. theres no way it can be ordered with less quality, when theres just that one way its supposed to be ordered which is the only way its ordered correctly in. you just strive to order it in that one specific way, by whatever method you find the quickest.

Really?

So, you, in practicing you music will be the next Chopin? Tchaikovsky? Mozart?

You, my friend, have interesting ideas....

Only 1‘s and 0's?

Only "black and white"?

Only "up and down"?

Hmmmm...

Vilku wrote:

Bastian wrote:

Vilku wrote:

RyuJin wrote:
i think feelings are rational,

, but feelings are based on logic .

Sorry but this doesn't make any sense.

Rickie The Grey wrote:

Vilku wrote:

Bastian wrote:

Vilku wrote:

RyuJin wrote:
i think feelings are rational,

, but feelings are based on logic .

Sorry but this doesn't make any sense.

I kept rereading that paragraph...

I knew some logic was failing me, but I couldnt pinpoint that... lol...

Thats what I get for reading from my phone... lol

I look at the world around me and see that emotion is far from rational. When people get emotional (Angry, Sad, Jealous, etc) they usually act in very irrational ways, choosing the least beneficial action for their situation. I mean, if everyone acted rationally all the time then I doubt that our species would be plagued with so many horrors.

And just because something can not be proven at this point in time doesn't make it wrong. Our facts in this age are not all correct or "all knowing" just as they weren't a thousand years ago. Past lives may or may not be true. But even if it's proven false it's no worse a belief than any other. All that matters is what people choose to do with their beliefs.