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29 Jun 2017 10:52 #289056 by steamboat28
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Albali Cometlast wrote: As a member here I really like the idea of a confidant session, but it will be for more as an emotional session, at the beginning of the post you were talking that it will be like the catholic church "confession" and in that confession no legal stuff were involved, so I think that the legal discussion is off the subject here.


It isn't, because these confidence sessions would function legally the same as confession wherever it's allowed by law to be a binding seal of confidentiality. We're just calling it something different because of a combination of factors. At least, that's my understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong, people.

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29 Jun 2017 11:49 #289058 by MadHatter
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steamboat28 wrote:

Albali Cometlast wrote: As a member here I really like the idea of a confidant session, but it will be for more as an emotional session, at the beginning of the post you were talking that it will be like the catholic church "confession" and in that confession no legal stuff were involved, so I think that the legal discussion is off the subject here.


It isn't, because these confidence sessions would function legally the same as confession wherever it's allowed by law to be a binding seal of confidentiality. We're just calling it something different because of a combination of factors. At least, that's my understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong, people.


If its allowed by law to be a binding seal of confidentiality then its legally functioning the same as confession. You see this is important because in my state some things are required by law for clergy to be reported UNLESS it is heard under the seal of confession. This is why the legal aspect is important to be clear on as in one case a person could be a mandatory reporter and in others they are exempt.

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29 Jun 2017 12:06 #289061 by Edan
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Are there any countries where Jediism is actually seen as a religion and therefore any laws regarding clergy confidentiality would actually be relevant? Correct me if I'm wrong but the 501(c) status that we have in the US only grants us rights as a non-profit, not as a religion.

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29 Jun 2017 12:11 #289063 by MadHatter
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Edan wrote: Are there any countries where Jediism is actually seen as a religion and therefore any laws regarding clergy confidentiality would actually be relevant? Correct me if I'm wrong but the 501(c) status that we have in the US only grants us rights as a non-profit, not as a religion.


If we are able to actually ordain a minister and thus license people to perform a marriage then we are able to enact the laws of confession. At least in the US. Because the US does not have an official list of recognized religion but if you wish to start a church ( which is what we have here) they take your word on it and thus in the US all the legal protections of confession do apply as per your state laws.

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12 Jul 2017 13:22 #290539 by Rosalyn J
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Council gas looked at the form. No problems. We are looking at how to integrate it
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12 Jul 2017 13:49 #290549 by Nakis
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Link in the FAQ and a menu bar next to donate? So when someone is in need they aren't struggling to find it, they just find it?

Or, on a member only Forum section, to prevent anyone from using it?

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18 Jul 2017 12:56 #291357 by Rosalyn J
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18 Jul 2017 12:58 #291358 by user15542
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This is awesome! Thanks Ros and all involved :)

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18 Jul 2017 13:32 #291359 by steamboat28
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Literally the only change I would make would be to put it in title case. ("Contact Clergy" instead of "Contact clergy")

This is great though. :D
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18 Jul 2017 15:30 #291377 by ren
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In legal terms, what goes through the totjo server is subject to french law.

France like many countries does not recognise the existence of any particular religion, although it keeps a list of thought-to-be-dangerous cults.(we're not on it)

Clergy people have no particular rights or obligations in comparison to regular people.

Do note that failing to notify the authorities that someone's life is in danger is a crime-ish.

French jurisdiction is limited in this case, I think the only time you would find yourself in trouble is if you live there, the threat to life (including to own) would have to go through totjo (which is only the initial 'clergy contact form' and not subsequent communication) And the life in danger would have to be in france as well...

A greater issue concerns eu privacy laws, which are being replaced by eu wide regulations in 2018. That should be fairly straight forward: do not take eu citizens information out of the eu and do not distribute it to 3rd parties without express consent (eu police doesnt count as third party), no matter who or where you are.

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