Is A Fertilized Human Egg A Person?

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9 years 5 months ago #167792 by Zenchi

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Br. John wrote: Is a fertilized human egg a person?


I'd have to answer that question with another question: When does a fertilized human egg become a person? If not at conception, then when? A week? A month? 6 months?

The only answer I can come up with is that a fertilized egg IS a person, because otherwise, when are they?


Is a walnut a tree? Of course it isn't, it's a walnut, just as a fertilized egg is a fertilized egg, not a human being...

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9 years 5 months ago #167794 by Proteus
Is a "being" with the natural potential of human life, a "being of humanity"?

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9 years 5 months ago #167798 by
ren did you read the article John posted? It was only around the seven month mark that it was possible to tell that an abortion in that instance was required.

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9 years 5 months ago #167804 by ren

ren did you read the article John posted? It was only around the seven month mark that it was possible to tell that an abortion in that instance was required.


I don't see in what way this would change anything.

a: Just because someone is disabled does not mean they require to die (making the "requirement" of abortion frankly distasteful, last time I checked the nazis lost the fight)
b: If indeed the baby has such a severe disability that the good thing to do is euthanasia, it is an issue to do with euthanasia, not with abortion or the mother's rights (or the father's rights -- though it's not as if they currently have any)
c: If one of the two has to die in order to save the other, I think abortion can indeed be considered. But this again has nothing to do with the mother's choice, but with which has a greater right/need to live, which I think would usually be the mother... But once again, it's not someone deciding to get rid of something they don't like, it's someone saving their own life. If the baby is somewhat killing the mother, the mother has a right to "call the cops", and "the cops" have a duty to shoot to kill if necessary.

That's how I see things.

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9 years 5 months ago #167826 by rugadd
No conversation we have on this is going to solve anything.

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9 years 5 months ago #167828 by ren
You assume there's a problem.

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9 years 5 months ago #167894 by

Br. John wrote:

The only answer I can come up with is that a fertilized egg IS a person, because otherwise, when are they?


At least one other answer is, "A fertilized human egg."

Many people believe (for many years I did) that the egg being fertilized is the beginning of pregnancy. It's not. Not by it's medical definition or according to doctors. Pregnancy is established when a fertilized egg has been implanted in the wall of a woman's uterus.

The majority of fertilized eggs don't accomplish this and they're expelled.

Since a non-attached egg cannot become a baby why consider it a person?


I don't see how doctors define pregnancy and how "a person" is defined has any bearing. "IT" is human, that's good enough for me.

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9 years 5 months ago #167925 by ren
I guess you don't cut your nails too often then Rickie? :D

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9 years 5 months ago #167933 by
nails ???

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9 years 5 months ago #167953 by

Rickie The Grey wrote:

Br. John wrote:

The only answer I can come up with is that a fertilized egg IS a person, because otherwise, when are they?


At least one other answer is, "A fertilized human egg."

Many people believe (for many years I did) that the egg being fertilized is the beginning of pregnancy. It's not. Not by it's medical definition or according to doctors. Pregnancy is established when a fertilized egg has been implanted in the wall of a woman's uterus.

The majority of fertilized eggs don't accomplish this and they're expelled.

Since a non-attached egg cannot become a baby why consider it a person?


I don't see how doctors define pregnancy and how "a person" is defined has any bearing. "IT" is human, that's good enough for me.


Just like the Yolk of an Egg is a baby chick right? ;)

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