What is the stance on killing?

I am a homicidal maniak too, i eat meat and i enjoy it ,although i only eat it for 2 times a week for enviromental reasons , i like the taste of animal after its been on the bbq and ...i feed cats outside so they kill and slaughter the mice and rats in my garden , One might say i am quiet violent ...
Off course all life is sacred , but only untill we are hungry enough or threatenend enough , its a very subjective question that will give you a lot of answers :laugh:

Ow sorry that would be Pullumicidal Maniak then..

I think what you have noticed is that most are taking a very indirect approach to answering your question. As with many things here at the temple, you'll find that there aren't right or wrong answers, but certain situations that dictate a particular response. All life is sacred, but not in an absolute sense. Circumstances may arise that dictate one position or another. But those positions aren't really absolute, either. Just tools along the way....

I'll be more direct for our new friend here.

There is no standard, stance or view on Jedi, Jediism, Realism or any other Jedi-insert unicorn colors here.

Ones moral belief on "Killing" is determined by each individual themselves.

As for me. I believe that "Killing" or ending one life in favor of another is just the harmonious part of nature. Things live and things die in order to keep a symbiotic relationship with life itself. If my life is threatened I will defend myself, and if "Killing" becomes the result of that defense, then it is as would be said in fiction "The will of the Force" or as I would say "Might is Right." Might meaning I had the favor in the outcome be it by skill, luck, or destiny.

However

As a Jedi that means I am tasked with the pursuit of Knowledge to ensure I respond to these situations and encounters with said skill sets for the most favorable outcome (no killing)

That means I train in Public Speech and Debate so that my words can be an efficient sheild
That means I train in Self Defense to better control my physical actions
That means I train in Meditation and Self Discipline so that I can control my emotions and enter any scenario with an open, clear and unbiased mind frame.

The above remains true for any other "Killing" situation such as Death Row with prisoners (Which I do approve of) or in Abortion (which I also approve of)

As a Jedi it is not about what everyone else thinks and believes. It is how you apply yourself in the situations given to you.

Life is death, that's as simple as it really is. Kill to live, or live to kill.

The only thing in the Temple doctrine that covers this is the following: " Jedi believe In the sanctity of the human person. We oppose the use of torture and cruel or unusual punishment, including the death penalty." and not even all Jedi agree with this concept.
So largely as you can tell from this thread Jedi will have their own views on the matter based on how they view the Code and other Jedi literature. So what are my own views on the matter?
Well in the case of defense of others or self I think that you can do whatever you must reasonably do to ensure that yourself and those around you make it home in one piece. Now you should obviously try to use the least amount of force you can to stop a threat but if it comes to it and lethal force is needed then you do what you have to.
As far as the state ending someone's life via the death penalty I think that while some crimes are worthy of this ultimate price it's too risky to give the state that power. Outside of the threat of it being abused, it's just too likely that someone could wrongly be killed only to be found innocent later. Since I am of the thought it's better to risk a guilty man going free than an innocent one going to jail obviously I am not in favor of the state doing something that cannot be changed.

These sorts of questions always seem to pop up from time to time. What is the stance on this? What is the stance on that? Everything from LGBT+ to abortion to marijuana to wars to being in the military.... The list could go on and on. And the answer is always the same:

TOTJO has no official stance.

We have members who are a part of the military. Their job literally entails the possibility of killing someone.

We have members who are the epitome of pacifists and would never pick up a weapon.

There are those who would never dream of supporting abortion; there are those who feel it is strictly a woman's decision and that no one else has the right to tell her what to do with her body.

In short there are extremes on both ends, but my personal experience is that most people stand somewhere in the middle to varying degrees. But there is no "official stance"....


Edit (afterthought): Triss, maybe you could add this one to your commonly asked questions document thing...

Avalonslight wrote: Edit (afterthought): Triss, maybe you could add this one to your commonly asked questions document thing...

I was about to say....if I can get some volunteers to help me gathering up all the links i can format them into the thread/document

My Jedi ism values life . All life . My attempt to rid my life of "labels" makes it easy when I take the Side all human life is valid. Even further is te idea all life is sacred and valid. Those are my chooses. They help me to give a neutral natural look at things rather than some automatic response set up by not me. My Jedi ism can not change the past. None can. My Jedi ism allows me to controls the things I can and change the things I choose to. Have I taken life, in war and in peace. Legally and Illegally. Have I paid for my actions , 100 times over. The value we can place now can very much over power any past exp. actions now can not erase the past but it can e ease the one who was there. Today before you is not the same person that was once was. Our official stance is we support you . Your stance is our stance. We believe in life and value and seeking things out. This puts a new spin on ... Jedi and their stand on killing ... I'm a lier thief killer and.... A lover and a husband and a father and a friend and a mentor . The ability to be anything still exist, today , regardless of what our "condition" tell us! Welcome to the Temple!

As an ex soldier I swore that I would kill for my country if the time came and if needed. But, as I believe in free will, and that a well placed word can change the course of human events, inflicting the ultimate judgement upon someone else, to take everything they are and everything they would ever be from them in a instant is to be the very last course of action.

But this is my own opinion. In the end, I think there is always another way, but if I have exhausted all other options and to kill is the only option left to me, I would do my duty and pray that my decision was the right one. If my government, whom I beleive is divinely appointed, ordered me to kill someone, I would do so, as the blame would be on the government and not upon myself. (within reason. I would never kill a minor, no matter how dangerous they are.)