19 Powerful Frequency Tones At Once | Achieve Astral Projection ✚ 8D Audio.

I honestly can't say if the original post in this thread has merit or not. I can appreciate that music conveys energy that influences us, with the potential to be either profoundly uplifting and expanding or oppressively degrading, depending upon the music. I do think that the assertions that the assertions about the various frequencies cited in the OP could use some explanation and support; I cannot tell if any of the related assertions are true or not.

That being said, it seems significantly unhelpful to fire back at the poster with charges of being nonsensical and unresponsive, and to pretend to not understand what was meant by "hZ". It may be that Flexibility posted the same thing in April and then forgot about it, so provided the video and a copy of the text that its creator added a second time without meaning to cause offense. I find it's usually better to give people the benefit of the doubt in a case like this. I know I've occasionally surprised myself by watching a video online and thinking "Hey, I really like this!" only to discover I'd commented on it years before and then forgot the video completely.

A helpful rule of netiquette: to the greatest extent possible, avoid using the word "you". It tends to divert conversations away from their original subject into a discussion about the merits and worth of the various participants.

It wasn't pretending to not know, it was an - admittedly sly and pedantic - way of pointing out that this isn't coming from a place of understanding of music or sound more broadly, because anyone who does would know how to spell the unit and perhaps mistype it once or twice, rather than nineteen or more times.
As for the benefit of the doubt... I did in April, I even obeyed the OP's plea to keep negativity away in my initial reply. What I can believe is that this was indeed posting a new thread and forgetting all about it. After all, they are posting it across half the bloody internet. Chances are good one would forget one site or another.
https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/37749-19-powerful-frequency-tones-at-once-achieve-astral-projection-%E2%9C%9A-8d-ambisonic-audio/
http://forum.ragezone.com/f153/19-powerful-frequency-tones-achieve-1164500/?s=f65bfb3d47f9a60ff47439e50e5225eb#post8957783
https://www.reddit.com/r/futurebeats/comments/ck6zmg/19_powerful_frequency_tones_at_once_achieve/
http://damnlag.com/threads/19-powerful-frequency-tones-at-once-achieve-astral-projection-%E2%9C%9A-5-planetary-frequencies-8d-ambisonic-audio.97028/

One key reason why we do have such a far reaching patience for spam like this may be that we are to a fair extent a place of intellectual discourse, and we can treat things fairly and meritoriously, no matter who posts them or how sincere we think they are... Right?

Upon further reflection during the day, I have decided that I was too quick to act. While I did not find Gisteron's tone helpful, I did not contribute anything helpful either. I was too quick to act without knowing all the facts. I sincerely apologize to all involved, especially you, Gisteron. I hope that we can become friends, or at least civil acquaintances.

Thank you for your input, Kelrax. It was very helpful. (You did get my name wrong though )

lightscribe wrote: Upon further reflection during the day, I have decided that I was too quick to act. While I did not find Gisteron's tone helpful, I did not contribute anything helpful either. I was too quick to act without knowing all the facts. I sincerely apologize to all involved, especially you, Gisteron. I hope that we can become friends, or at least civil acquaintances.

Thank you for your input, Kelrax. It was very helpful. (You did get my name wrong though )

Sincere apologies; it wouldn't have been hard for me to check ^_^U

Brother, i am not advertising. I am not even making these videos. I want to share this with people to help them in infinite ways. I believe everyone can get some kind of benefit from this kind of music. I got many friends into meditating with this kind of music.
Im listening to these kind of audio tracks for 2 years already. They changed my life and perception many times. If you find the right kind of music it can really really enhance your meditation experiences. I know it does the magic for me. It really helps many people out there, you just need to give it a chance. For example isochronic tones are scientificaly proven to improve and change your brain waves. There are also binaural beats, here is one official study which i managed to find:
- https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4428073/

EDIT: i tried to quote, but it does not work for me somehow.
EDIT #2: Try this one, it has square isochronic tones, it should increase your alpha brain waves, they are called "relaxed but focused",

One can find very interesting you tube videos. A lot of the binaural ones help me - headache, back pain, etc. I appreciate you sharing the link. I will check it out. Some of them resonate for me, some not; all worth investigating.

Thank you for the post.

I'm eternally grateful that i came across another open minded person.
Thank you for your comment and im glad that you are into the sound healing world.
This kind of music can really help with many different things and improve different aspects of your life.

Was Gist's reply was deleted because he was right? It's hard to believe flexibility is genuinely trying to contribute to TotJO when he spams a boilerplate copy/paste post with a video link to multiple forum sites, while not participating in any other fashion.

You can be open-minded while still recognizing spam for what it is. The only reason these external links haven't been removed is because they are for "health benefits" and not blatantly pirated Russian horror films

From the rules section in the FAQ:

Do not spam with either posts, private messages (PMs) or in chat.

Do not advertise anything which is "for-profit" and do not use the Temple to promote non-Temple services.

Internet space is not the same as “real-life” space. If someone is irritating me online i really do have the ability to just ignore them. I think TOTJO even has a function for it iirc, not that i would use it.
To me it looks like Flexibility is spamming and i voiced my opinion. S/he wants play like s/he doesnt understand, fine; im prepared to just ignore Felixibility’s posts (it would be nice if theyd be kept to a single thread, at least).

Others choose to continue speaking and it seems to me that this is a choice they should be allowed to make. Flexibility is spamming. S/he doesnt have a journal or an introduction, has made no replies to anyone elses topics and has only opened topics to share links to binaural beats.

https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/search?searchuser=Flexibility&childforums=1

Ive seen at least two people banned for spamming just jn the last week but for some reason, Flexibility gets a pass. Im not calling for a banning, necessarily. Id prefer for Flexibility to genuinely participate with us, instead. But in light of the actual factual history, Gist’s comments seem pretty reasonable to me. Now instead of banning the spammer, Gist’s post got deleted? Did one of his posts get deleted? It’s hard to imagine that Gisteron asking for his post to be deleted or even that he would approve of its deletion if asked. So im assuming if there was a deletion, one of the mods just deleted it of their own accord? Am i wrong to assume this (i certainly might be)? If there was a deletion could the person who did it please explain the rationale behind the decision?

Hang on, one of my posts was deleted? Where? When? Are you thinking of #345138 here? https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/meditation/122948-relaxing-music-for-meditation-productivity-sleep-with-healing-solfeggio-freque#345138
Because I can see it just fine still...

Did I forget I made one recently in this thread? Sheesh, I'm getting old! :laugh:

Touché, there's far more of these threads than I realized. It's like they're spam or something

Wow you guys are just trolls! You attack anyone with different ideas than yours. I thought jedi were about inclusiative aspects of all reality but you guys just take the cake!

I like this post for one! I will participate in a good way! How about you others try before you poo poo the idea.

Jediism is "inclusiative" to people who are genuinely involved. Inclusivity doesn't mean we need to agree with ideas that are obviously wrong or affirm people who aren't authentically involved in the discussion.

In these threadS I've bracketed out the actual discussion of whether or not the sounds do what the OP claims, almost solely for the purpose of preventing claims that I'm biased

Fyxe wrote: Wow you guys are just trolls! You attack anyone with different ideas than yours. I thought jedi were about inclusiative [sic] aspects of all reality but you guys just take the cake!

I like this post for one! I will participate in a good way! How about you others try before you poo poo the idea.

Bwahaha!

My dude! How about you try! Google for any tone generator online like https://www.szynalski.com/tone-generator/ , type in 4096Hz and listen, and then come back and tell me that what you heard was even part of the meditation track in the OP.

There is no need to "poo-poo" all over the "idea". The music is fine. If it helps you meditate, more power to you. But if they are going to paste it all over the internet with claims of magical healing powers, then pardon me, but that's fair game. And if they will list some "magical" frequencies and allege that those are significantly present in the tune (even setting aside how pleasant or beneficial they are supposed to be), that, too, is not a matter of "liking" the thing (and its several copies) or not.

You say it quite correctly, Fyxe, we are inclusive of aspects of all reality. That doesn't oblige us to include any and all fantasy that is arguably not. And before this sounds overly exclusive, do keep in mind what sort of treatment nonsense like this would get anyplace else on the internet. Not only does this place let spam like this slide in the first place, here it gets to actually start discussions, even when the poster barely participates. We actually entertain this. I myself even defended it a few lines earlier saying that I can appreciate how the music linked might aid meditation. And yes, where most other places it'd get either ignored or mocked and ridiculed, here the most poo-poo-y thing that might happen is a genuine critical (one daresay intellectual) response. Oh, woe!

You say, with your usual confidence, based on a non sequitur rooted in your personal gut feeling, that God clearly, as a matter of fact, does not exist, yet when I say that the frequencies alleged to be significant parts of a tune are barely to be found in it discounting discretization effects, and we can show it, or that possibly they do not have healing powers that somehow kept evading medical research for decades, that's somehow unfair or unreasonable? Oh, please...

Alright, lets all take a breather. We can disagree with each other without insulting each other.

I must admit this thread confuses me somewhat. However, Flexibility has now responded to a number of comments and I don't believe this falls under our definition of spam.

I'll mention it to a user who has Mod rights in this forum (as I don't), just to get their perspective, but as I say, I think this one is alright.

Fyxe wrote: Wow you guys are just trolls!

Incorrect. Each of us have years of active interaction with this community. I’m pretty good at criticizing and I've certainly ruffled some feathers over the years but i have genuine affection and respect for this place and im doing my best to contribute in positive and useful ways. I cant speak for Gisteron but observation leads me to believe that he would say the same thing for himself.

You attack anyone with different ideas than yours. I thought jedi were about inclusiative aspects of all reality but you guys just take the cake!

You can see this as an attack if you like but it would be better for all of us if you took it as an invitation, instead. I am inviting you to become more active here in a more personal way. Make an introduction and tell us a little bit about yourself here: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/Introduce-yourself

Take a look at our doctrine here: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/doctrine-of-the-order

Check out the Initiate’s Program here: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/initiateprogramme

Maybe start a journal here: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/47-Journals

Or browse these forums and either open a new discussion (an actual discussion, not just a link to youtube videos) or enter into any ongoing discussion/s that seem interesting to you: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/index

I don't feel like the objections to the OP in this thread are the work of trolls, though a few responses could have been more diplomatic.

I believe that there are fascinating phenomena that occur outside the bounds of 3D reality, but understand that this belief is the result of a mix of personal experience and perception. We have to be really careful in extending a statement like "I tried doing X and right away Y happened" to the conclusion "X causes Y". The first statement suggests the possibility of a relationship, which is valid to present, but the latter asserts certainty, and to be credible requires precise definitions and a body of evidence.

The original post asserts that these various musical passages can heal the body, change consciousness, support communication, and "center magic". Maybe, some people experience these things, and it's accurate - even helpful - to describe those experiences for the consideration of others. But these claims convey the possibility of extreme outcomes, and if asserted with certainty - as they seem to be here - require both evidence that they have been well tested, and also need to rest upon a foundation of well-defined terms. Much of the terminology in the OP is imprecise; it is not clear what centering magic is, what is meant by the "power of surprise" is also unclear, how these musical passages are related to orbits of various objects in the solar system is undefined, and what an 8D audio is goes undefined as well.

I'm not trying to say the claims in the OP are false; I don't know enough to say that. But no evidence for their validity is provided, not even one person's experience, so the grounds for having confidence in them are weak. It doesn't help matters that the OP is apparently copied word for word from one forum to another; I have to agree with those that say this shows a lack of engagement with the communities hosting the post, and thereby leads to suspicion that the poster has some ulterior motive in sharing the content. If Gisteron's assertion that the cited musical frequencies aren't even present in at least some of the videos, that doesn't help credibility either.

That said, I suspect people may find the sounds conducive to meditation. That's a good enough claim, so maybe we can leave it at that until more is known.

It's not that they aren't present... Because of the uncertainty principle it is inevitable to find pretty much all frequencies in any track of finite length. I'm saying the frequencies listed (or some of them, at any rate) aren't dominant, significant contributors to the entire thing. I'm sure this can be seen by performing a fourier transform on the track, I'm just not sure if suggesting that sort of effort to the regular forum reader is quite as effective as linking to something where they can just listen to what any frequency sounds like and judge for themselves if they have heard it to a noteworthy extent in the track before. It's more subjective this way, fair enough. Yet it's also more intuitive and hence more convincing than the "proper" way to make the point would be...

OB1Shinobi wrote:

Fyxe wrote: Wow you guys are just trolls!

Incorrect. Each of us have years of active interaction with this community. I’m pretty good at criticizing and I've certainly ruffled some feathers over the years but i have genuine affection and respect for this place and im doing my best to contribute in positive and useful ways. I cant speak for Gisteron but observation leads me to believe that he would say the same thing for himself.

You attack anyone with different ideas than yours. I thought jedi were about inclusiative aspects of all reality but you guys just take the cake!

You can see this as an attack if you like but it would be better for all of us if you took it as an invitation, instead. I am inviting you to become more active here in a more personal way. Make an introduction and tell us a little bit about yourself here: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/Introduce-yourself

Take a look at our doctrine here: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/doctrine-of-the-order

Check out the Initiate’s Program here: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/initiateprogramme

Maybe start a journal here: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/47-Journals

Or browse these forums and either open a new discussion (an actual discussion, not just a link to youtube videos) or enter into any ongoing discussion/s that seem interesting to you: https://www.templeofthejediorder.org/forum/index

Jesus Christ, im gonna have to quit drinking again. I meant the second part of this post to be directed to Flexibility.

Fyxe: being corrected or disagreed with is not the same thing as being attacked. This is a place of learning. If you dont have the ability to think critically and to evaluate evidence then most of what you think youve learned will end up being nonsense.

I'd say the only thing that bothers me is Flexibility's "New Age Bro" vibes. Very annoying, almost as bad as those damn vegans.

Now as far as these silly tones that I generally equate with pseudo-spiritual vomit, a study actually found that binaural beats at 6hz with a carrier tone frequency of 250hz induced a meditative state in participants.

Because of this, I use these exact binaural beats when meditating, and they really do make a difference.
SCIENCE B*TCH
(batch, like batch of cookies, what were you thinking?)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5487409/
ABSTRACT
"A binaural beat is a beat phenomenon that is generated by the dichotic presentation of two almost equivalent pure tones but with slightly different frequencies. The brain responses to binaural beats remain controversial; therefore, the aim of this study was to investigate theta activity responses to a binaural beat by controlling factors affecting localization, including beat frequency, carrier tone frequency, exposure duration, and recording procedure. Exposure to a 6-Hz binaural beat on a 250 Hz carrier tone for 30 min was utilized in this study. Quantitative electroencephalography (QEEG) was utilized as the recording modality. Twenty-eight participants were divided into experimental and control groups. Emotional states were evaluated by Brunel Mood Scale (BRMUS) before and after exposing to the stimulus. The results showed that theta activity was induced in the entire cortex within 10 min of exposure to the stimulus in the experimental group. Compared to the control group, theta activity was also induced at the frontal and parietal-central regions, which included the Fz position, and left hemisphere dominance was presented for other exposure durations. The pattern recorded for 10 min of exposure appeared to be brain functions of a meditative state. Moreover, tension factor of BRUMS was decreased in experimental group compared to control group which resembled the meditation effect. Thus, a 6-Hz binaural beat on a 250 Hz carrier tone was suggested as a stimulus for inducing a meditative state."