Chakras, human electromagnetic field and Qi circulation

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08 Jan 2018 03:48 #311459 by MadHatter
I thought I would add this to see what people thought of the article

http://www.thewayofmeditation.com.au/blog/6-facts-chakras/

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08 Jan 2018 04:15 #311463 by

MadHatter wrote: I thought I would add this to see what people thought of the article

http://www.thewayofmeditation.com.au/blog/6-facts-chakras/


I am not knowledgeable enough to know whether the author's claims are completely accurate, but I can't disagree with the fundamental point that for many the chakras are better seen as a meditative aid than as quasi-physical structures. About a third of the argument seems to be "well, it ain't scriptural," and truthfully that doesn't hold much weight for me.

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08 Jan 2018 05:51 - 08 Jan 2018 05:54 #311472 by
I second what Atticus says. Any diagram of theoretical principles is just a model for conceptualizing what we can't clearly see. One of my favorite biology professors has her class do an exercise where they compare textbook diagrams of a genetic process, and then create their own, finding new metaphors to illustrate what goes on. So I always keep that in mind, while working with either the chakra or internal organs/meridians systems. We can't cut a dead body apart and map these living interactions, yet people have gotten results working with the body of knowledge we have about them and that provides guidance. As a stickler for historical details, I do appreciate the author's point that the 7-chakra system most folks are familiar with has a much larger history and has been modified away from the original texts. It doesn't necessarily mean that innovations are wrong, but it's always good to go back and look at the original tradition (in keeping with the theme of January, LOL).
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08 Jan 2018 18:29 #311514 by rugadd

Flojade wrote: Thank you White monkey for the reference I'll look it up ;-) And thank you Carlos for the video, it's too bad we don't know the kind of meditation the guy was doing.

Rex have a look here :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetocardiography

If you have some moving Qi exercices and you know the effect on the body I am all ears.


So that magnetic field is a proven thing? Have we been able to demonstrably control it? have we been able to demonstrably sense it or project it?

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08 Jan 2018 18:49 #311516 by OB1Shinobi
http://tantrikstudies.squarespace.com/blog/2016/2/5/the-real-story-on-the-chakras

THE SIX MOST IMPORTANT THINGS YOU NEVER KNEW ABOUT THE CHAKRAS
Warning: Spoiler!

People are complicated.
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08 Jan 2018 20:02 - 08 Jan 2018 20:34 #311523 by OB1Shinobi

OB1Shinobi wrote: http://tantrikstudies.squarespace.com/blog/2016/2/5/the-real-story-on-the-chakras

THE SIX MOST IMPORTANT THINGS YOU NEVER KNEW ABOUT THE CHAKRAS

Warning: Spoiler!



Well i guess thats why we should read before we reply lol


MadHatter wrote: I thought I would add this to see what people thought of the article

http://www.thewayofmeditation.com.au/blog/6-facts-chakras/



Sorry MH..... good thinking tho! B)

My comment on the article and its implications is this: people are full of malarky lol the new age crowd is moosh and gumballs when it comes to intellectual integrity or credibility. I have had experience with reiki and can say that there is somethig there sometimes with some people and can also say that theres a lot of BS --- A LOT of BS.
Ive had telepathic experiences and visions and have affected other people with my own....feelings (and been affected by others). I know from my own experience that we are capable of some things that we dont currently have any scientifically validated explanation for. But i also know .... well i strongly believe based on observation and judgement that 90% of the people out there writing books and hosting seminars are charlatans and 90% of the people reading those books and attending the seminars are "marks" ... people being suckered by cons. Quite the conundrum isnt it? Lol

People are complicated.
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08 Jan 2018 20:04 #311524 by
Super interesting article OB1, thanks! So Chakras are more like a mental image you can use to help move or give texture to an energy anywhere you want in your body, but basically you can do it any way you want.

It would seem so Rugadd, it seems to have been successfully recorded in 1963 and it is very low a million times lower in intensity than earth's magnetic field. Talk about subtle energy! :D

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08 Jan 2018 20:10 - 08 Jan 2018 21:02 #311525 by OB1Shinobi

Atticus wrote:

MadHatter wrote: I thought I would add this to see what people thought of the article

http://www.thewayofmeditation.com.au/blog/6-facts-chakras/


I am not knowledgeable enough to know whether the author's claims are completely accurate, but I can't disagree with the fundamental point that for many the chakras are better seen as a meditative aid than as quasi-physical structures. About a third of the argument seems to be "well, it ain't scriptural," and truthfully that doesn't hold much weight for me.


I think the crux of the argument is that the people who invented the chakra system know more about it than the people who made up some alternative chakra systems based on misunderstanding and conjecture. Like if i read some misinformation or mistranslation about medicine wheels or runes and then make up my own system/s based on them that are fundamentally different from the originals. I can call it a medicine wheel system or a rune system but is it really? If i never properly understood what the original was then how could i create a system based upon it that is credible? I cant believe im gonna say this but isnt that just a "cultural appropriation"?

(Its the inaccuracies inherent in such a thing that i consider important, more than the "injustice" of it. You could take the phenomenon of "cultural appropriation" and just as accurately call it "cultural evolution" or "cultural syncretism" imo, but that is another topic)..

I find the critique plausible, personally- BUT id also say that for those who believe in and practice energy work, there is always room for the imagination and if somethings working for you then cool, go with it.

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09 Jan 2018 04:51 #311551 by Adder
I tend to associate chakras into either targets for mindfulness on the endocrine system (5-7), or more usefully as tension pumps (4) to modulate spinal balance - and therefore build a physical relationship with the nervous system (going in rather then out as per usual). So I tend to take a psychosomatic approach for it and base it on science and personal experience only.

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10 Jan 2018 05:27 #311675 by
Thank you adder! Could you be more specific about your practice please? Also, what do you use it on your endocrine system for?

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