real force users

Hello Masters

If we look back in time to the Shaolin monks then we see that they could use energy to kill, push etc. But they did so only if they had no other choice. There are many accounts of this training and seeing how only those that had been training for many many years masted the ability are the only ones accounted. Even thou all the monks were taught this ability. So its not so far fetched to be able to push some one away with energy alone. But what reasoning would we to day have for learning such an ability.

For give me if I sound so nevi for saying this.

My personal experience of being saved over 10 times where I know I should have died. Moved an inch to the right and avoided a bullet, didn't step toward the waiting suspect with a knife, knew when others where around, dodged cars and trucks in traffic as if reflex. It feels as if I'm not in control, yet knowing everything is all right at the same time. Giving in to the force takes practice and mediation. The force fine tunes your senses an allows faster than normal reaction. Harnessing this gift is the journey we all must take. It's a long road.

As I said, I agree that such abilities as being able to "force push" people can be learned (search youtube for "Qigong Master" for one such practical demonstration) but this takes years of practice. Anyone spending that much time learning such arts will also learn to control themselves and learn about the wise application of power that they wouldn't want to do it just to push someone around. MikeBudo will testify to this too - anyone learning martial arts from a reputable source would be taught the ethics and responsibility of such training. Just because you an do something doesn't necessarily mean that you should.

Very interesting.... I searched "Qigong Master" on YouTube... Very Interesting....

Believe it, or not....

I believe for most of us "Force Powers" are more subtle.

More akin to a guiding intuition.

The first time I felt the force was way back in 1996, I was in culinary school, had a full time job and an awesome girlfriend.

She picked me up from the train station one day and dropped me off at work. About an hour later, I felt what I tell everyone was a disturbance in the force, A wave of unease came over me. I called my brother and asked him if he could check out my apartment. He did. He came to my work to tell me that he found my girlfriend, and one of my friends un-clothed, in my bed. I asked him to tell her parents.

This also leads up to force based rage(adrenaline). No , not a good thing. A few days later we encountered each other, allegedly I was kicked in the chest 4 times and wouldn't stop charging him.

I have never felt the Force as strong since.

Sounds like to me that you gave into hatred... Used anger as a weapon. Summoned the force to your will for a vengeful purpose. These are sith actions as well as weakness we must all at some point over come in life. A wise man once said to me "If you have to fight, you've already lost". Though your pride would have been hurt by walking away, the energy that you charged up could have been used for a positive action instead. We must, especially as Jedi, harness our energies and turn the negative into positive. Bring Peace and Love into ANY situation. Your actions were not selfless and in service to others. You thought only inward about how YOU felt. I am not saying the situation was not a bad one. It was natural to feel upset. It's how we deal with these issues that makes us better than that. One other thing. You must learn to let go of your attachments to meaningless things. A cheating girlfriend is not meaningful. Your attachment to her became not just attachment but possession. If you did not think this way, you would not have fought. As humans as well as animals of this planet, it's in our nature to protect and preserve that which is OURS. She was not yours to fight over. She is a free individual with a will of her own. Just as you have your own will. Then there is the will of the Force. If you would have put aside your feelings and listened to the force, you would not have attacked. Good luck in future endeavors and try to choose your companions more wisely in the future.

I admitted in my post it wasn't a good thing.
This thread was about using the force with no specifics on what aspect.
I understand the points you make in your post, but I feel that you should have left it in a private message to me instead of judging me as you did.
I am also much older now , and more in control of things.
Thank you for your input.

And now back to our thread, currently in progress.

The dark side is in us all, it is a trial that we constantly over come. The rush of energy you felt, you are not alone. People experience jealously, rage, hatred, anger, and love. In very different ways. If you were truly broken hearted, your path could have been altered . However here you remain. Not the alternative. Thus yes you could have had a brush with the darkside, luckily your training prevented the change and again here you reman. Folks a Jedi is not immune to emotion as per the old code. Rather intune with peace, and the awareness that bad things can and do happen. Jedi acusing other Jedi of turning to he darkside is not the way. The force shows fact in it's existence everyday. It's how we interpret that manifestation, united.

Further more I believe in times we all must fight. "for Evil to triumph, all good men need to do is Nothing."
Ww1 ww2 Police soldiers mothers fathers , all found just cause to fight for something true no?
I could be wrong, to each thier own.

Right, wrong, indifferent; even if someone had not spent the great part of their life dedicated to learning how to have an such immediate physical impact with metaphysical energy, and just happened to have a very "lucky" one in a billion moment of "accidental" discovery like this; even still if the one shoved was "ok" with it; there is still the point of the matter that this supposedly happened during a basketball game (please forgive the assumption); I don't personally feel like it is very sporting. Not that there is any rule in basketball against such a thing, it's still not very cool in the sport of competition, as I see it.

When your girlfriend jumped into bed with you friend, she then took responsiblity of her actions and the actions that followed there after. You weren't responible for the course of events that she set in place.