real force users

I believe for most of us "Force Powers" are more subtle.

More akin to a guiding intuition.

The first time I felt the force was way back in 1996, I was in culinary school, had a full time job and an awesome girlfriend.

She picked me up from the train station one day and dropped me off at work. About an hour later, I felt what I tell everyone was a disturbance in the force, A wave of unease came over me. I called my brother and asked him if he could check out my apartment. He did. He came to my work to tell me that he found my girlfriend, and one of my friends un-clothed, in my bed. I asked him to tell her parents.

This also leads up to force based rage(adrenaline). No , not a good thing. A few days later we encountered each other, allegedly I was kicked in the chest 4 times and wouldn't stop charging him.

I have never felt the Force as strong since.

Sounds like to me that you gave into hatred... Used anger as a weapon. Summoned the force to your will for a vengeful purpose. These are sith actions as well as weakness we must all at some point over come in life. A wise man once said to me "If you have to fight, you've already lost". Though your pride would have been hurt by walking away, the energy that you charged up could have been used for a positive action instead. We must, especially as Jedi, harness our energies and turn the negative into positive. Bring Peace and Love into ANY situation. Your actions were not selfless and in service to others. You thought only inward about how YOU felt. I am not saying the situation was not a bad one. It was natural to feel upset. It's how we deal with these issues that makes us better than that. One other thing. You must learn to let go of your attachments to meaningless things. A cheating girlfriend is not meaningful. Your attachment to her became not just attachment but possession. If you did not think this way, you would not have fought. As humans as well as animals of this planet, it's in our nature to protect and preserve that which is OURS. She was not yours to fight over. She is a free individual with a will of her own. Just as you have your own will. Then there is the will of the Force. If you would have put aside your feelings and listened to the force, you would not have attacked. Good luck in future endeavors and try to choose your companions more wisely in the future.

I admitted in my post it wasn't a good thing.
This thread was about using the force with no specifics on what aspect.
I understand the points you make in your post, but I feel that you should have left it in a private message to me instead of judging me as you did.
I am also much older now , and more in control of things.
Thank you for your input.

And now back to our thread, currently in progress.

The dark side is in us all, it is a trial that we constantly over come. The rush of energy you felt, you are not alone. People experience jealously, rage, hatred, anger, and love. In very different ways. If you were truly broken hearted, your path could have been altered . However here you remain. Not the alternative. Thus yes you could have had a brush with the darkside, luckily your training prevented the change and again here you reman. Folks a Jedi is not immune to emotion as per the old code. Rather intune with peace, and the awareness that bad things can and do happen. Jedi acusing other Jedi of turning to he darkside is not the way. The force shows fact in it's existence everyday. It's how we interpret that manifestation, united.

Further more I believe in times we all must fight. "for Evil to triumph, all good men need to do is Nothing."
Ww1 ww2 Police soldiers mothers fathers , all found just cause to fight for something true no?
I could be wrong, to each thier own.

Right, wrong, indifferent; even if someone had not spent the great part of their life dedicated to learning how to have an such immediate physical impact with metaphysical energy, and just happened to have a very "lucky" one in a billion moment of "accidental" discovery like this; even still if the one shoved was "ok" with it; there is still the point of the matter that this supposedly happened during a basketball game (please forgive the assumption); I don't personally feel like it is very sporting. Not that there is any rule in basketball against such a thing, it's still not very cool in the sport of competition, as I see it.

When your girlfriend jumped into bed with you friend, she then took responsiblity of her actions and the actions that followed there after. You weren't responible for the course of events that she set in place.

In my opinon...

In the end, we are all responsible, ultimatly, for our actions...

We can attribute, or blame, them on an outside stimuli... But this is why many of us are here, to learn to control the 'fly off the handel' responses we have grown used to making excuses for...

So many Journals here, begin:

"I came here hoping someone will show me how to stop being angry"

It was one of the things, I myself hoped for... It worked, somewhat, for me...

Just my thoughts...

The Force is always in everything we do and we cannot separate our emotional responses from such a connection. Those moments in which we feel most alive are those in which we experience the Force at its most intense. Some situations are more involved than others and I'm sure we all know the feeling of rage and how powerful it can make us feel at the time. I hope that we have all also known the power of a moment of joy when staring at a sunset or gazing into the face of someone we love. These are the more subtle moments of recognising the Force.

The teachings and guidance offered at this Temple (and at other sites in the Jediism community) aim to provide support for us in those times when we lose control and our actions are spontaneous and irrational as a reulst of our experiences. Flying off the handle and hitting someone, being lost in passion and sleeping with someone too soon, these are just two examples of those times.

We shouldn't berate ourselves for doing these things because we're learning about ourselves and about life. In our more rational moments we can consider the actions that we have taken and maybe decide that we should have done things differently. If a similar situation arises in future, maybe we would take the other path instead. Through study, meditation, self-reflection and a quest for understanding ourselves and others, we can hope to reach a state of being where all of our actions are considered and made with wisdom. It's a neverending journey but that's the Jedi way.

So let us have compassion and tolerance for the mistakes we make and the trauma we inflict on ourselves and others. Make amends where we can, build bridges if possible, but always strive to act with a pure heart and a respect for all living things, ourselves included.

Something else to note, and not to discredit you MikeBudo, but even a Ki/Chi master cannot always push someone with Ki/Chi. If the person has a strong enough belief against the move, they can effectively counter it without the slightest bit of motion involved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z0_n7tGnK0 (National Geographic Study)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar1yXYOsxQk (News Study-which offers explanations)

It was all in the game and everyone just kept playing like nothing happened, which still doesn't lead me to beleive I was hallucinating, I beleive I know what is real and what isn't. Our adrenaline was pumping and I'm sure since we fall a lot during basketball games the kid wasn't hurt, it was awesome to me because I've always wanted to have power to defend good from evil and I think I was in tune that day more than any other day. Every day I see and hear signs in every day things maybe because I"m looking for them but I do think it shows the Force is there for me. One small force push that was partially me and partially the Force, after I forced pushed him over I felt like I was in the Jedi Temple and I was just training with other Jedi, noone got hurt, we just kept playing. Weird I know and unbeleivable to the ears but hey, it's my crowning acheivement. Thanks for your comments bye

Its all ..vary interesting but the point of mastering the ability ti push some one over is more of the ability to master ones self and i will leave it at that so you your self may think on what the meaning is it should be about the same but different for every one

The Force was with me this weekend.


While getting ready for the festivities this weekend, I had to run to the store.
I stopped at one I usually don't goto (kind of a dive as far as grocery stores/minimarts go)
I picked up a bag of ice....passed on my usual lottery scratch offs, took a detour to avoid a train and came back home, my (thankfully) lazy butt cut thru the garage instead of going around.
I seen smoke...A towel had fallen onto a lightbulb and was smoldering. when i removed it to the patio, the air hit it and it burst into flames.

I wonder what would have happened if: I went to the usual store? Waited for the train? Got my lottery tickets?

MTFBWY-A

I also had an odd experience.

I "met" a guy on a Social Network in the internet, who neither provided his real name, nor did he show a real picture of him. As I read his profile, I realized that he was in big trouble and rather suicidal. Maybe I have to mention that I live in a city with a million of people and that coincidences are very unlikely there...

Well. Some days after that I realized a guy in the subway. Something in my mind hammered the words "This is him!"
So I took my smartphone and looked for his page in the social network. In that second he asked me if that was an I Phone 4. I answered yes and then asked him if that profile I just loaded was him. He looked at me with big eyes and said "Yes".

So we had a little chat and I asked him for his cellphone number. His friend was so confused, he always asked if we really just met.

The guy I am talking about is on drugs and all my attempts to message him or call him failed so far... but maybe our encouter changed something. At least I hope so.

I am quite flabergasted yet and I hope, he will get better...

I am sure the Force told me that it was him.

All the best,
Qui-Ran

A fairly enjoyable conversation, It reminds me of all the crazy stuff I have done over the years. Such as jumping up a pretty tall wall, think it was about 15-18 foot tall wall so pretty decent jump,or when I ripped a half dead tree from the ground and threw it about 20ft, or from a time when I was younger very similar to what the op discribed I just sent this kid flying no idea how I didn't physically push him or anything like that he just went sailing about 10 ft across the playground, these are all things I didn't mean to do on purposed and if I learned to control it I wouldn't want to use it to harm people at the very least not without good reason to protect someone would be a reason to use such abilities.

I once saw a documentary talking about Shaolin monks.
There was a pile of 10 bricks. The monk gathers the qi aroud him and you think : wow this guy is gonna break the whole pile !
slow motion, the monk hits the pile with his hand (at this point you think : ouch !) and ... nothing happens for a short while, and suddenly, only the lower brick literally explodes !
the most amazing demonstration i ever seen.

[quote="Mark Anjuu" post=39107 A Jedi is not concerned with the acquisition of power but with the effect that their actions and thoughts have on everyone and eveything around him/her. OK, so a Master of Qigong (for example) can use what we call the Force to hurl someone across a room but to what end? If you're looking to achieve such things, then spent decades of your life in constant study and practice as everyone else has to. But along the way you may well find that your motivations change and that you no longer seek the ego-driven nonsense that you thought was important when you were younger.[/quote]

I like to think if a person has taken the time to "use" the force that they by then have enough wisdom to use it sparingly, with discretion and not for their own good or recognition. That would be a unique person.

Yes...

Apparently there is a way of using "Physical Force" in real life. There are certain types of practices where one can build certain types of energy using kinesis. There are many types of "Kinesis".

A few examples include:

• Aero Kinesis(Ability to litterally, "Grab" the air around you and release it in a violent blast)
• Pyro Kinesis(Ability to control fire)
• Tele Kinesis(Many of the most known ones, the ability to control/move thing using the mind)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YaOA5wmgGY <- Aerokinesis, I don't know the legitimacy of this fella' but it's pretty cool anyways...

Although, a more scientifically oriented answer/point towards this is that there are ways people can literally, "Build Pressure" during motion of the body, it's a theory but it's the closest scientifically theory out there. Although a rare occurrence apparently it can happen.

Still though, pretty cool...

-James

Even if one were to believe this, what is the point of cultivating the ability to blow leaves around on an obviously windy day?

Khaos wrote: Even if one were to believe this, what is the point of cultivating the ability to blow leaves around on an obviously windy day?

Because... AIRBENDING!!!



Okay, maybe I watch too much of that children's show...

Nah! It's fantastic. I'd love to be a fire bender.

"Children's Show". C'mon now. It's for teens, most definitely. The topics are very heavy.