- Posts: 724
A Dangerous Antibiotic-Resistant Gene Has Spread The World. We Now Know Where It
07 Apr 2018 05:17 #320127
by
Replied by on topic A Dangerous Antibiotic-Resistant Gene Has Spread The World. We Now Know Where It
Say what I want? Mkay. Just because you don't understand the science behind something, it doesn't mean that it's dangerous or bad for your health. I side with the scientific majority, here. The ones who actually know what they're talking about. If chemicals are so bad, stop breathing and drinking anything because it's all chemical. GMO foods are food. I understand the phobia of not wanting to take in antibiotics unnecessarily. Antibiotics are not good for our microbiomes. That's why prescription antibiotics are only given for a course of a certain amount of days. They destroy good gut bacteria along with the bad and leave room for the ones not killed off to flourish and make us sick. But, the antibiotics in the meat people eat are at safe enough levels to not be so dangerous. Eating meat is a choice, I'll give you that. Eating anything is a choice. Moral or not, if you care about your survival, you will eat. Otherwise, just starve yourself.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
07 Apr 2018 19:20 #320148
by Eleven
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tl1zqH4lsSmKOyCLU9sdOSAUig7Q38QW4okOwSz2V4c/edit
Replied by Eleven on topic A Dangerous Antibiotic-Resistant Gene Has Spread The World. We Now Know Where It
That was a out right immature response Luthien. I don't know what I am talking about? Ok, if you wanna look at science go look up some of these chemicals that are in your food seriously. Who, ever said I don't eat meat? I do. Now, your making a case against vegans? Lol... look at the toxicology, in most red meats, the carcinogens which is in cigarettes. Eating is a choice? Yes sir it is indeed. I am overweight, I am making positive changes in my personal life that works. I wasn't attacking those who do eat gmos, or processed foods. But, I find it was that people know of these things and still don't do anything about it. You gotta take care of your temple.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tl1zqH4lsSmKOyCLU9sdOSAUig7Q38QW4okOwSz2V4c/edit
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- Carlos.Martinez3
-
- Offline
- Master
-
- Council Member
-
- Senior Ordained Clergy Person
-
Less
More
- Posts: 7985
07 Apr 2018 20:51 #320151
by Carlos.Martinez3
Pastor of Temple of the Jedi Order
pastor@templeofthejediorder.org
Build, not tear down.
Nosce te ipsum / Cerca trova
Replied by Carlos.Martinez3 on topic A Dangerous Antibiotic-Resistant Gene Has Spread The World. We Now Know Where It
I once knew a man who chose notNOT to take medications and see doctors , you know what he died of? As he said he ran out of Time. Diets and the word diet often are synonymous with trends unfortunately. Some have stances and beliefs and some have diftent - practices and faiths - they don’t just revolve solely around religion. Can we as modern day Jedi live in a world where other people’s views are as valid as ours and deserve the same value and freedom as our own? Not just in religion... but in all things ... can we believe in the inherit worth of all or step on their sandcastles if they don’t look and are like ours? Hmmm
I myself don’t take the flu shot anymore after I got back from my last tour of war. Do I get sick - off and on. Do I eat meat - mmmmm on the grill or bbq pit I eat rich lobster and everything I like - in balance. I encourage all to ha e a balance in as much in their life’s as possible - here too. My pops ( not my biological) drinks windex when he’s sick. Works for him. I don’t. Some people soak in mud- goat poop- cow poop- buffalo poop- hot water cold water - this world is full of remedies and practices I don’t try myself. I may some day! Not sure about the pooo but I may have a leach or two some day on me .
I myself don’t take the flu shot anymore after I got back from my last tour of war. Do I get sick - off and on. Do I eat meat - mmmmm on the grill or bbq pit I eat rich lobster and everything I like - in balance. I encourage all to ha e a balance in as much in their life’s as possible - here too. My pops ( not my biological) drinks windex when he’s sick. Works for him. I don’t. Some people soak in mud- goat poop- cow poop- buffalo poop- hot water cold water - this world is full of remedies and practices I don’t try myself. I may some day! Not sure about the pooo but I may have a leach or two some day on me .
Pastor of Temple of the Jedi Order
pastor@templeofthejediorder.org
Build, not tear down.
Nosce te ipsum / Cerca trova
Please Log in to join the conversation.
08 Apr 2018 00:04 #320156
by Eleven
@Carlos, I always appreciate you input on subjects. Very well said and your right.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tl1zqH4lsSmKOyCLU9sdOSAUig7Q38QW4okOwSz2V4c/edit
Replied by Eleven on topic A Dangerous Antibiotic-Resistant Gene Has Spread The World. We Now Know Where It

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Tl1zqH4lsSmKOyCLU9sdOSAUig7Q38QW4okOwSz2V4c/edit
The following user(s) said Thank You: Carlos.Martinez3
Please Log in to join the conversation.
08 Apr 2018 01:49 #320163
by Rex
Knights Secretary's Secretary
Apprentices: Vandrar
TM: Carlos Martinez
"A serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely of jokes" - Wittgenstein
Replied by Rex on topic A Dangerous Antibiotic-Resistant Gene Has Spread The World. We Now Know Where It
There was a news article about a 100+ year-old lady who says she's lived as long because she drinks Dr. Pepper. That's obviously not true, so take a liberal dash of salt with people who say that scientific consensus is either wrong or that it says something incredibly vague yet conveniently ideological.
Science isn't syncretic: there are things that are right and wrong. Scientific consensus is built off of tests surrounding specific conditions, creating a larger picture using inductive reasoning. Do a little research of your own from academic sources both from journals that agree with you and dissenting views. Try to understand the mechanisms of it before saying "eating grass fed meat will prevent all diseases" - sure it's probably healthier for you, but that doesn't make it disease resistant. Shutting yourself into an ideological echo chamber is suicide for your mind.
Luthien might've been a bit harsh, but makes valid points
Science isn't syncretic: there are things that are right and wrong. Scientific consensus is built off of tests surrounding specific conditions, creating a larger picture using inductive reasoning. Do a little research of your own from academic sources both from journals that agree with you and dissenting views. Try to understand the mechanisms of it before saying "eating grass fed meat will prevent all diseases" - sure it's probably healthier for you, but that doesn't make it disease resistant. Shutting yourself into an ideological echo chamber is suicide for your mind.
Luthien might've been a bit harsh, but makes valid points
Knights Secretary's Secretary
Apprentices: Vandrar
TM: Carlos Martinez
"A serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely of jokes" - Wittgenstein
The following user(s) said Thank You: Manu, , Carlos.Martinez3
Please Log in to join the conversation.
- Carlos.Martinez3
-
- Offline
- Master
-
- Council Member
-
- Senior Ordained Clergy Person
-
Less
More
- Posts: 7985
08 Apr 2018 02:19 #320164
by Carlos.Martinez3
Pastor of Temple of the Jedi Order
pastor@templeofthejediorder.org
Build, not tear down.
Nosce te ipsum / Cerca trova
Replied by Carlos.Martinez3 on topic A Dangerous Antibiotic-Resistant Gene Has Spread The World. We Now Know Where It
Rex
Do you think
With science
There are things proven
And there are things yet to be proven ? Rather than using common words like
Right and wrong?
Do you think
With science
There are things proven
And there are things yet to be proven ? Rather than using common words like
Right and wrong?
Pastor of Temple of the Jedi Order
pastor@templeofthejediorder.org
Build, not tear down.
Nosce te ipsum / Cerca trova
The following user(s) said Thank You: Eleven
Please Log in to join the conversation.
09 Apr 2018 02:59 #320210
by Rex
Knights Secretary's Secretary
Apprentices: Vandrar
TM: Carlos Martinez
"A serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely of jokes" - Wittgenstein
Replied by Rex on topic A Dangerous Antibiotic-Resistant Gene Has Spread The World. We Now Know Where It
The future is unknown, so I live and act based on the present.
This thread is in the science forum, so there are rules to play by. I wouldn't go into the abrahamic forum and talk Buddhism. I stand by what I said, because scientific tests have an outcome. Even a flawed experiment exhibits certain truths because the physical world acts in a given way i.e. incorrect inputs will lead to flawed outputs.
According to the body of scientific work I have encountered, I believe something. If you wish to speak in a scientific context, anecdotal evidence isn't worth much. I play by the rules, and am willing to be challenged by others on that level field
This thread is in the science forum, so there are rules to play by. I wouldn't go into the abrahamic forum and talk Buddhism. I stand by what I said, because scientific tests have an outcome. Even a flawed experiment exhibits certain truths because the physical world acts in a given way i.e. incorrect inputs will lead to flawed outputs.
According to the body of scientific work I have encountered, I believe something. If you wish to speak in a scientific context, anecdotal evidence isn't worth much. I play by the rules, and am willing to be challenged by others on that level field
Knights Secretary's Secretary
Apprentices: Vandrar
TM: Carlos Martinez
"A serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely of jokes" - Wittgenstein
The following user(s) said Thank You: , Carlos.Martinez3
Please Log in to join the conversation.
09 Apr 2018 05:32 - 09 Apr 2018 05:32 #320213
by Adder
More dangerous!! Got links?? Curious minds are curious....
Replied by Adder on topic A Dangerous Antibiotic-Resistant Gene Has Spread The World. We Now Know Where It
Luthien wrote: When it comes to organic vegetables, it is more dangerous since pesticides are still used (the organic kind) and at higher amounts. The pesticides in conventional farming are much safer.
More dangerous!! Got links?? Curious minds are curious....
Last edit: 09 Apr 2018 05:32 by Adder.
Please Log in to join the conversation.
09 Apr 2018 17:37 - 09 Apr 2018 17:53 #320240
by
I am under no obligation to be polite or mature in response. You said "say what you want," so I did.
Replied by on topic A Dangerous Antibiotic-Resistant Gene Has Spread The World. We Now Know Where It
Sven One wrote: That was a out right immature response Luthien.
I am under no obligation to be polite or mature in response. You said "say what you want," so I did.
Last edit: 09 Apr 2018 17:53 by .
Please Log in to join the conversation.
09 Apr 2018 17:50 #320241
by
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/httpblogsscientificamericancomscience-sushi20110718mythbusting-101-organic-farming-conventional-agriculture/
https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/06/the_biggest_myth_about_organic_farming.html
I only say "more dangerous" because more is used due to organic pesticides being less effective. It's really inconclusive as to whether modern pesticides are really any danger to our health. Honestly, if buying organic makes someone feel better about themselves, more power to them. Placebos can induce a healing response if the patient doesn't know that they're not actual drugs.
Replied by on topic A Dangerous Antibiotic-Resistant Gene Has Spread The World. We Now Know Where It
Adder wrote: More dangerous!! Got links?? Curious minds are curious....
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/science-sushi/httpblogsscientificamericancomscience-sushi20110718mythbusting-101-organic-farming-conventional-agriculture/
https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/06/the_biggest_myth_about_organic_farming.html
I only say "more dangerous" because more is used due to organic pesticides being less effective. It's really inconclusive as to whether modern pesticides are really any danger to our health. Honestly, if buying organic makes someone feel better about themselves, more power to them. Placebos can induce a healing response if the patient doesn't know that they're not actual drugs.
Please Log in to join the conversation.