Jediism and Transhumanism

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25 Jan 2016 18:31 #224112 by
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I am okay with replacing lost limbs and all the advances going on there with 3D printers and better and better neural interfaces, but I draw the line at transfer of consciousness. Personally I don't believe that it's even possible as you won't be able to transfer the "spirit" or "soul" that I believe is the main driving force of a living thing.

If it were possible to transfer our consciousness someday we would have to redefine the idea of "living being" but I believe that we would lose any ability to "connect" with the Force as we currently know it.

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25 Jan 2016 18:35 - 25 Jan 2016 18:44 #224114 by
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Kymos Akari wrote: For those of you who don't know, Transhumanism is the philosophical idea that naturally humans should meld with technology to end our shortcomings


Phew! Glad I don't have any of those! :whistle:

Now my question is, would some loose the possibility of connecting with the Force and claim to being a Jedi since they would no loner be biological even though they are sentient seeing as how the Force is usually centred around living things or would sentience alone be enough to connect to the Force and be a Jedi?


For me, at least, the only way to "lose connection with the Force" is to stop being myself. It's my belief system and way of life, there's nothing biological about it. If anything about my mind survives the upload into scurry!computer, I'll still be a Jedi. You can't have me without that big defining element (at least not at this point in my life).
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25 Jan 2016 18:48 #224116 by
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Athena_Undomiel wrote: No machine can surpass that natural levels of the human potential.


I would love to, someday, have us create an AI that not only chooses the Jedi path of its own free will, but can process all of the philosophy better than we ever could because of it's limitless, unprogrammed perspective... then learns to levitate its x-wing and Force-choke things xD

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25 Jan 2016 19:02 #224117 by Carlos.Martinez3

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Athena_Undomiel wrote: No machine can surpass that natural levels of the human potential.


I would love to, someday, have us create an AI that not only chooses the Jedi path of its own free will, but can process all of the philosophy better than we ever could because of it's limitless, unprogrammed perspective... then learns to levitate its x-wing and Force-choke things xD


let me know when that happens, ill stay home!lol

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25 Jan 2016 19:07 #224119 by
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfkRZWFHpss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUzFtWNOOOU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN57u7-x75w

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25 Jan 2016 19:37 #224127 by Carlos.Martinez3
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These statements almost...almost...lol prove that we do not normally think for ourselves rather have the "drone"effect. Me personally , I think most of us only do use 10 percent of our brain because we never really make the choice to choose. That's my idea lol .

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25 Jan 2016 20:33 #224155 by
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transfer of consciousness


Isn't there enough crap on the internet now!? :)

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29 Jan 2016 22:43 - 29 Jan 2016 22:43 #225260 by Yugen
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For the moment, i am connected to the only thing i need, and that is the force.
Our human consciousness is merely electrical signals, that can easily be transfered or "uploaded" to an avatar, but the way i see it, we would not loose our connection to the force if our consciousness and with it our vibration just changed host. But of course, it all remains to be seen

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30 Jan 2016 00:05 #225271 by
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AFAIK, there are 3 things: humanism, transhumanism and posthumanism. Transhumanism, IMO, is mostly about escapism into the fantasy of technologically perfect future. Also, I've met Russian transhumanists and my opinion of them is not that high.

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30 Jan 2016 00:16 #225273 by Adder
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My transhumanisn is about increasing the usable heights of possible experience/intelligence, and increasing the healthy length of it (longevity), having two main fronts; spiritual and technological. Unfortunately the tech side is a way off, but it's fun to think about!!! In fact, the spiritual best builds the intelligence/experiential potentials and the tech would probably be the only way to increase the longevity (with a fair share of overlap no doubt).

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