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26 Oct 2014 19:46 #166637
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Highly unlikely, unless such an organized religion sprang, fully-formed, from its creator (like Scientology.) Most religions grow organically, which means that they don't start as a means of control; rather, they are conceived as a way to answer questions we don't really have access to answers to. However, humans can pervert anything, so even organically-grown religions can be used to control (see the entirety of the Crusades.)
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27 Oct 2014 16:34 #166791
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Thank you for the reply.
That makes a lot of sense, we try to find answers by putting our faith in something greater than ourselves and some people take advantage of this, giving all of religion a bad name, would I be correct?
That makes a lot of sense, we try to find answers by putting our faith in something greater than ourselves and some people take advantage of this, giving all of religion a bad name, would I be correct?
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27 Oct 2014 16:38 #166792
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That's the gist of it. There are exceptions, of course; religions that seem incorruptible, or religions that seem like they were built solely upon corruption. But generally, that's how they work.
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Can corruption in a person be unlearned? Say for example someone is corrupted by greed and selfishness but realises this is not the right behaviour, can said person return to who they were before corruption?
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27 Oct 2014 16:50 #166797
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Not the same person. One better than before, perhaps, but the lessons they learned from their corruption would stay with them to guide their actions in the future.
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Exar Qel Droma wrote: Can corruption in a person be unlearned? Say for example someone is corrupted by greed and selfishness but realises this is not the right behaviour, can said person return to who they were before corruption?
Not the same person. One better than before, perhaps, but the lessons they learned from their corruption would stay with them to guide their actions in the future.
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27 Oct 2014 17:02 #166800
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So in a way their corruption helped them grow?
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27 Oct 2014 17:03 #166801
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I'm not advocating corruption as an excuse for growth, but everything we endure holds a lesson for us, if we can see it.
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27 Oct 2014 17:14 #166804
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I don't believe religions were created with control in mind, nor that all are still for control. Buddhism, Wiccan, Atheism, where is the control in that? Religions were created by our ancestors when knowledge was hard to come by. They needed a way to explain things. Why there was a sun, a moon, storms, etc. So they naturally created a "diety" who is in control. However as our ancestors grew with knowledge, so did their chances for corruption. In my opinion the corruption started when you requires to give money to "your god" , and all it went to was to pay for the lavished lifestyle of the Clergy. Which, you still see in today's times as well. Its very rampant in the Aramahic religions, instead of eastern religions who generally seem to be more about enlightenment even today.
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That sounds similar to what doesn't kill you makes you stronger mixed with knowledge is power.. Am I making any sense?
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