LaVeyan Jedi

Sounds quite interesting. I must say I agree on a lot of the points.

I agree on the 'sins' being human reflexes/nature, that death is the end (no soul or afterlife) and would take no effort in trying to confince someone who doesn't want to listen.

I wouldn't go as far as to call them stubborn ingrates tho. Nor am I outraged by the so called power display of the church.

As you said, time is limited so dont waste it on outrage, hatred or ranting on people you find stubborn ingrates.

I believe in using my precious, limited time here to love, laugh and enjoy live to the fullest with everyone who's near to me.

Much like Alethea, I too have friends who follow the Satanic philosophies of the Black Pope, and believe in the Force, there called Sith. I used to be one of them, although still a Sith, I have sense moved to Luciferianism as this provides me a much better sense of balance.

LaVeyan Jedi? Why not just call yourself Sith, or Atheist?

As a former Sith, my experience with the left hand paths was that they just didn't work very well. People who believe in ego worship and strife as a spiritual path spend too much time attacking each other and annoying people and don't seem capable of creating any kind of transcendent movement or atmosphere. The whole point of religion, it seems to me, is to become part of something that transcends yourself, not to worship yourself. In the Yogic model of consciousness, LaVeyans are stuck in the lower chakras and deny that higher chakras even exist. Why do you even need a spiritual path if you're a LaVeyan? Does a dog need a spiritual path? Why not eat and rut and fight, and forget all this religion nonsense?

Xon, Jedi to me, is about improvement of the self for the service of others. And yes, while LaVeyan Satanism does have a firm grounding in "might is right" as well as "survival of the fittest", mayhaps Lividius doesn't follow LaVeyan Satanism to the letter. He's a Grey, trying to bring together the Light and Dark in order to define his Way.

I'm a Dark Aspect Apprentice and a Sith Initiate, and I'm not religious. Force Realism to me is a philosophical program, and LaVeyan Satanism is too. It only has religious elements to sate the human desire for psychodrama.

As a former Sith, you seem to condescend to the entire idea of the left hand path. Alternatively, Lividius has just turned 18. Maybe he was merely enthralled by LaVey's words. I would've been too, had I read them at his age.

I think age has a lot to do with it...

Not physical age, but mental age....

Age, and where they are on the path of their life... not Sith, Levayan, nor Jedi...

But their life's path....

Which, doesn't really change, from one direction to another, bit continues toward and changes in color, as it changes in intent....

Just my ramblings...

I support your decision to explore LeVays stuff. Go for it.

At that age we are easily enthralled by words that especially inspire rebellion. I mean I remember when I claimed I was wiccan not knowing what it was about.

It is all worth exploring because it gives a different perspective. But there is always posers and those who truly walk the path. Satanism certainly isn't like it should be, but there are certain aspects of it that I like. Satan in its original language meant Adversary and that means a lot to me more than some great big demon. I am still studying the left hand path.

I feel in a way you cannot know true 'light' without 'darkness.' But it has been a very interesting study and I have learned so much @___@

Lividius wrote: There is a common saying within the LaVeyan community that says: "What is worse than not knowing: To live or to disappear?" meaning it is better to understand that time is limited and to make the best of the time you have instead of living your life in anticipation of something that may not even come to pass.

I really like this. Carpe diem.

I rarely refer to LaVeyan Satanism as just "Satanism". Specifically invoking LaVey's name gives the right people the right message. I do like some of the facets of the philosophy, but then, I'm Dark Aspect. How does it relate to the Jedi Path, if it does?

I am honestly not sure, general philosophies of dark aspect do not align with so-called light aspect. While it can depend upon how one defines Jedi and the sub-sects of grey and light and what separates someone from the dark and the light, the lines can be blurred as it is not simple black and white. Certainly there is distinct differences between the Dark Aspect others, but for the meaning of studying Satanism I guess knowledge is always important and especially when understanding the so-called other side.